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Powerslave
09-12-2009, 01:22 PM
Hey there everyone,

For the last two days I have been working on an Imperial Fists Land Raider Redeemer. Before we go any further, I would like to underline certain points that are relevant to the project.

First, this is the first modeling / painting project where I have made extensive use of the Fading technique – that’s right, fading with oil paints, which proved to be quite a difficult task, considering this was my first time. I used Winsor & Newton, Rembrandt and Abteilung paints. To be more exact – I had the following colors in my arsenal: Rembrandt Burnt Sienna, W&N Yellow Ochre and Abteilung Shadow Brown.

Second point – I have extensively used an airbrush on this tank. Normally I do a lot of work by hand – but here I decided that my weathering and fading will need the help of a good oil paint thinner and my good old airbrush to make sure that the textures are correct and that the paint sets in properly. I have also airbrushed the pigment fixer – because that way it does not leave any gloss marks.

Third point, I decided to apply a lot of MIG pigments and the Oil and Stain mixture (and by a lot, I mean way more than usual).

Fourth and final point – I used fresh found inspiration from the Forge World masterclass book to do the flamethrowers and all metallic parts. I used 4 / 5 different tones and shades of metallic colors with layers of inks and oil / pigment grease homemade mixtures. The flamethrowers are something that I am particularly proud of.

A lot of people will probably criticize my choice of colors for the Redeemer – I am guessing that it’s too grim, too weathered, too brown for an Imperial Fists tank. The thing is that I honestly believe that Space Marines should not be all shiny, like the Ultramarines. They need to be grim – they are men of war, eternal warriors who spend their lives battling the enemies of the Imperium. I wanted to show a vehicle that would reflect the horrors of war in the 41st millennium. The Imperial Fists are famous anti siege specialists and also hardened urban fighters. This Redeemer has been part of trench warfare in the Gloria Flax campaign for at least four weeks and has not been repaired – as the loyalists are currently pinned down and need all their machines in constant defense and readiness to burn out enemy trenches, as well as support the Death Korps of Krieg.

I don’t like to see my marines shiny and clean – I want them to be gritty, I want them to be on the brink of death and destruction – and I want them to be weathered, and most of all, I do not want them to be in that construction yellow that GW wants us to paint Imperial Fists in.

Those who saw or are watching / participating in my Terminators thread will certainly notice a difference in approaches and how I altered a lot of elements in my painting style.

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Note the Yellow Ochre on certain areas. With the help of the Yellow Ochre fading, I was able to keep a consistent ochre tone on the whole tank, and I was also able to show the different reaction of the surface to the elements. I used Shadow Brown and Burnt Sienna on all the screws - these colors were faded into the general scheme, once the thinner evaporated.

The rust effects were achieved by randomly dabbing MIG Standard Rust pigment and Burnt Sienna (both dilluted by MIG Thinner) onto the surface. The I loaded my airbrush with MIG Thinner and went to town on this bad boy (took about 30 minutes to get the patterns that I want to have on this tank, you have to get the rust "running on the surface.")

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Powerslave
09-12-2009, 01:23 PM
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Note the dry mud and dust on the Imperial Fists' symbol. On the screws, I used Burnt Sienna dilluted with MIG thinner (after application, wait for about 30 minutes and then fade the paint in).

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Powerslave
09-12-2009, 01:24 PM
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Ah, the flamers - note the lower pipe being in a reddish tone. It was basecoated with Boltgun Metal and then Covered with two layers of Burnt Sienna oil paint mixed with Brown Ink, and then some extra MIG Standard Rust pigments were added while the surface was still wet. The prometheum tubes got a basecoat of Boltgun Metal, then a wash of Brown Ink mixed with Badab Black Wash.

I will explain how I did the flamer. Pretty much, identical technique to the Forge World Masterclass - basecoat black, then drybrush Tin Bitz, followed by Boltgun Metal. Then drybrush either Shadow Brown or Burnt Umber oil paint onto the surface. Everything was washed by Brown Ink. The heated flamer was then drybrushed with Mithril Silver and washed with Brown Ink. Then, it was washed with Leviathan Purple and some Brown to show discoloration from the heat.

The prometheum tanks - very simple to do. Basecoat with Boltgun Metal, then drybrush some Brown oil paint, then wash with Brown Ink. Then make a rust mixture from 15% Burnt Sienna, 15% MIG Standard Rust, 70% Thinner and wash the tanks with the mixture. There you go.

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Well, as always - all comments and criticism is more than welcome, and moreover it is needed!

Hope you all enjoyed it.

The AKH
09-12-2009, 02:33 PM
Wow, excellent job. The weathering is just amazing. It might just be the pictures, but... it might look better if you did a little more shading around the major panel lines.

Lindargo
09-12-2009, 04:29 PM
Woah... nice job there!

GM Rex Nihilo
09-12-2009, 04:35 PM
Nice Job! I like it!!

Dark_Templar
09-12-2009, 06:43 PM
That's frickin' awesome.

Every time I see somebody paint like you, a little part of me dies, because I know I will never be able to get close to that. Great job.

Powerslave
09-13-2009, 05:04 AM
Thanks for the comments guys!

AKH - yeah, I think I should have added more depth around the panel lines, you are right about it. Next time I will do an additional dark wash there.

I don't know what vehicle I will be tackling next, but I am thinking of doing a Drop Pod in the same theme - and with a Drop Pod I think I will have more leeway to do burnt / corroded / discolored metal (due to the nature of drop pods and their use).

Rapture
09-13-2009, 09:34 AM
I really like the darker, dirtier yellow that you are painting. The large surfaces on the tank look especially nice so I hope the other things you paint work just as well.

Jiggs
09-13-2009, 05:46 PM
Wow this is by far my favorite Imperial Fists army, I've never cared for bright yellow but this weathered look makes Imperial Fists look so much better and I think what would look really good on a beaten crusader/redeemer is some blown up frag assault launchers to show some termis have already had some fun assaulting. I can't wait to see more painting of yours in the future.

the drake
09-13-2009, 07:00 PM
Fantastic! Two thumbs way up.

vman
09-14-2009, 01:57 AM
Thats how fists should look

That looks 100 x better than typical yellow safety marines

That at least looks realistic.

I love them

themurphyfella
09-14-2009, 07:25 AM
Looks nice.
Any thing you would change or do differently based on experience?
My next project is to paint and weather my ork trukks using a number of the same techniques and I haven't tried them out yet

Powerslave
09-14-2009, 09:49 AM
Thanks for the feedback guys!

Yes - I think I should have done some extra things that I will try to do on my next vehicle that gets a similar weathering process (though not on my WIP Drop Pod, since a Drop Pod's nature is very different from a tank, and its weathering is also very different as you have to take into account massive amounts of heat and other elements).

Ok... let me see:

Next time - I would add one more Oil Color for fading - I would take a lighter tone to fade together with the ochre (most likely a desert yellow of some kind, which would be just one level brighter and would stay in my darker color scheme).

I should have added more pigment fixer and a final coat of matt varnish, not satin as I did here.

Also, I think next time I will try to use a sponge / hairspray to show the paint peeling off in some areas. Since I have a lot of rust applied on this tank, I think that it would only be natural to show serious tear and wear of the color.

I used Filters here, but I think I could have added more of them, and I will do that next time (two more layers of Filters).

And some recesses need more dark washes, as it was pointed out, some could use more depth.

The smoke launchers could have used some filing and damage - to represent heavy use, and the smoke would leave a residue on the armour, around the launchers, so next time I should go for some extra MIG Black Smoke dry pigment.

And another general remark I can make - some metallic parts can use even more layers of oil paints / pigment / inking.

Weathering is one area in modeling that I am fairly good at - and I think I can do decent displays of the use of pigments / inks / oil paints in sci-fi modeling. As I said, I am currently doing a Drop Pod, in the Imperial Fists scheme, so keep an eye open here, it should be done in 2 days (my airbrush broke, so I have to go by hand and that also means that the time it takes to have multiple layers dry is much longer).

I wanted to ask - do you think it would of some benefit for others if I did a very detailed tutorial of how I go through my weathering - it might be useful? If yes, I can document some of my next heavy 40k armour projects, and do some stage by stage descriptions.

Feel free to message me, or contact me through my blog / email if you want to discuss weathering in a much more detailed way.

themurphyfella
09-16-2009, 10:10 AM
I'm always interested in seeing how other people paint.
Weathering is one of those area's I've shyed away from in the past because I was afraid of messing up my paint job after I'd done all the nice'n'neat bits.

rsheridan5
09-16-2009, 12:59 PM
I have to agree with your post on the grim and dark look of Marines. I am sure that when they return to thier strike cruisers they painstakingly mend and repaint their armor and tanks, but in the think of it, cleanliness isn't even a second thought.
The tank looks great and I look forward to seeing more of your army painted up with that thing!

mchawkeye
09-17-2009, 12:06 AM
You, sir, are a man after my own heart.

I myself have a IF army, and I too tend towards more or a dirty (what I call 'JCB') Yellow as opposed to the bright birdy yellow. I also use blue rather than red as the secondary colour because of the book Space Marine, by Ian Watson.

Your tank looks great, very well done. That forge world book, which I have borrowed (stolen) from a mate of mine is a massive source of inspiration, even if I did know most of what it was telling me. I read it on the toilet.

RedScorpionsGirl
09-19-2009, 09:10 PM
Awesome! I love the way you handled the weathering, looks SOOOO much better than the bright and shiny new yellow color. I understand they are yellow... but you make an excellent point sir, great work!
Do you have any pics of the rest of the army that goes with the tank?