Grey knight 2000

[gendoikari87]

HQ
Coteaz[100]
Grand Master [250][Orbital Strike Relay, 3 Servo Skulls, Melta Bombs Psybolt Ammo]

Troops
Warband[200][5 Storm Bolter Acolytes, 3 Jokaero, Chimera with dozer]
Warband[200][5 Storm Bolter Acolytes, 3 Jokaero, Chimera with dozer]
Warband[200][5 Storm Bolter Acolytes, 3 Jokaero, Chimera with dozer]
10 Grey Knights[250][Daemon hammer, 2 Psycannons, Psybolt Ammunition]
10 Grey Knights[250][Daemon hammer, 2 Psycannons, Psybolt Ammunition]
10 Grey Knights[250][Daemon hammer, 2 Psycannons, Psybolt Ammunition]

Heavy Support
Dreadnought [1350][2 Twin Linked Psybolt Autocannons]
Dreadnought [1350][2 Twin Linked Psybolt Autocannons]

Total: 1970

[roguejm11]

HQ
Coteaz[100]
Grand Master [250][Orbital Strike Relay, 3 Servo Skulls, Melta Bombs Psybolt Ammo]

Troops
Warband[200][5 Storm Bolter Acolytes, 3 Jokaero, Chimera with dozer]
Warband[200][5 Storm Bolter Acolytes, 3 Jokaero, Chimera with dozer]
Warband[200][5 Storm Bolter Acolytes, 3 Jokaero, Chimera with dozer]
10 Grey Knights[250][Daemon hammer, 2 Psycannons, Psybolt Ammunition]
10 Grey Knights[250][Daemon hammer, 2 Psycannons, Psybolt Ammunition]
10 Grey Knights[250][Daemon hammer, 2 Psycannons, Psybolt Ammunition]

Heavy Support
Dreadnought [1350][2 Twin Linked Psybolt Autocannons]
Dreadnought [1350][2 Twin Linked Psybolt Autocannons]

Total: 1970

Not really a fan of Coteaz or Jokaero Shenigan's with its weapons, but I have heard that it is better to have just 2 in a unit not 3.

Also, all 3 sets of grey knights are on foot? Most armies would not have much trouble dispatching that with shooting from beyond 30''

[gendoikari87]

Not anymore they aren't, i just gots me two rhinos, so I have only two GK units in rhinos now. but the rhinos look good.

[DarkLink]

Also, all 3 sets of grey knights are on foot? Most armies would not have much trouble dispatching that with shooting from beyond 30''

Quite to the contrary. I find I never actually put my Knights in rhinos at all. I've played around with all foot lists for a while, and lately I've taken razorbacks on everything. You can't fit a full 10 man squad inside, but you don't need to. Let the razorback shoot, then at the end of the game if you need to hide a damaged unit you've got a transport to do that.

Also keep in mind that, when taking into account the size of your deployment zone, a 30" range can hit almost anything on the board by turn 2. Deploy properly, and you won't have to worry about range, especially when you have long range fire support like razorbacks and dreadnoughts to back you up.

[Neelam]

As with your other list the GM is out of place . You can't move and fire OSR so he's going to be sat at the back somewhere by himself yet you gave him psybolt ammo and melta bombs.

Again he's going to be very vulnerable to long ranged heavy fire (1 lucky las cannon round or missile can put down your 250pt HQ) . If you stick him in any other units then either you won't get to use your OSR or you marines will be stationary and out of range for the majority of the game.

If you're absoultely dead set on having an OSR in your army give it to a techmarine with no other upgrades and stick him in some reinforced terrain for the entire game, strip down your GM and give him a retinue (you could free up points but ditching some jokero) .

I keep my GMs fairly cheap and cheery with just a force sword and rad / psykochoke grenades. Maybe a couple of servo skulls if you're going deep strike heavy and then stick him with some termies (4 halberds / 1 hammer / 1 psycannon 225pts)

[gendoikari87]

well him and the other techmarine go into the chimera squads. so he won't be on his own, he's inside a vehicle. Melta bombs and the other stuff is all for when things get hair,

[Neelam]

Okay in that case what's the point in the OSR? It can't be used if he's moved AT ALL regardless of the relentless he gets from termi armor . If they're just sat at the back in the chimera then thats an awful waste of an additional 200 points

[celestialatc]

I think you should drop the Grandmaster and do this combo for the points:

Inquisitor Karamazov (200), 3 Crusaders (45).

That gives you an OSR that you can use on your own men if you have to, he is a higher toughness and the 3 Crusaders give him more wounds than the Grand Master.

The GM will only have 4 wounds and a 2+/4++ and he can be instant killed by a lascannon....Karamazov has 4 wounds but only a 2+ but with the crusaders he has 3 extra places to put wounds with a 3++ save. Sure you can't put Karamazov into a transport, but you can hide in somewhere and just OSR all over the place.

I know you have maxed out your troop selection so you can add the Crusaders to one of the henchmen squads since you have not maxed them out. The Jokaeros might even give Karamazov a 5++ so he is equal to a terminator. Sure they might be foot slogging it but you have hide them in terrain.

And if a vehicle or foot unit is coming close to him, you have a Master Crafted Multi Melta and a Master Craft Power Sword AND he has rad and psychotopic grenades! I don't know what others think of him, but he is worth his points and have an awesome model.

Also he allows units within 12" of him to reroll morale and pinning checks....he is like a BSB from fantasy!

[gendoikari87]

oooooo..... Karmazov.... conversion possibilities.

also you can't put karmazov in a transport.

[DarkLink]

Honestly, the OSR isn't that great. You've already got Coteaz who's a great HQ, so unless you want to rewrite the whole list to include some sort of assault unit to put the GM in I would just drop him completely.

You also have plenty of scoring units, so I would upgrade one of the GKSS units to a unit of Interceptors so the footslogging isn't a big deal. Interceptors are awesome. That leaves you with 220pts to spend.

Since you don't have a whole lot of CC and mediocre middle range firepower, I would spend those remaining points on Purifiers. Put them in a Rhino with two psycannons, and you have just enough points for 6 dudes with 1 hammer and some Halberds.

You now have 5pts left over to spend on whatever you want.

[gendoikari87]

So Here's what I've come up with.

HQ
Coteaz [100]


Elite
Techmarine[140][ OSR]
Techmarine[140][ OSR]
Vindicare Assasin [145]

Troops
Warband[205][5 Storm Bolter Acolytes, 3 Jokaero, Chimera, HK missile]
10 Grey Knights [295][Daemon Hammer, Halbred, 2 Psycannons, Rhino]
Warband[205][5 Storm Bolter Acolytes, 3 Jokaero, Chimera, HK missile]
10 Grey Knights [295][Daemon Hammer, Halbred, 2 Psycannons, Rhino ]
Warband[205][5 Storm Bolter Acolytes, 3 Jokaero, Chimera, HK missile]

Heavy Support
Psyfleman [135]
Psyfleman [135]


Total: 2000

Two techmarines for OSR and bolster defenses, HK missiles on the stationary chimeras, A vindicare for taking out troublesome Squad leaders with PW to support my GK's who charge into the fray, and two psyflemen to blast tansports apart and nine jokaero to clean up any heavy tanks.

[gendoikari87]

HQ
Brotherhood Champion[100]

Elite

Troops
10 Grey Knights [300][Daemon Hammer, 2 psycannons, psybolt ammo, rhino with HK missile]
10 Grey Knights [300][Daemon Hammer, 2 psycannons, psybolt ammo, rhino with HK missile]
10 Grey Knights [300][Daemon Hammer, 2 psycannons, psybolt ammo, rhino with HK missile]
Terminator Squad [245][Daemon Hammer, Psycannon, 4 Halberds]
Terminator Squad [245][Daemon Hammer, Psycannon, 4 Halberds]

Heavy Support
Land Raider Redeemer[255][Multi-Melta]
Land Raider Redeemer[255][Multi-Melta]

Total: 2000

Thoughts?

[gendoikari87]

HQ
Coteaz[100]

Troops
Warband [190][2 Plasma gun Acolytes, 3 Jokaero, Chimera]
Warband [190][2 Plasma gun Acolytes, 3 Jokaero, Chimera]
10 Grey Knights [280][MC Hammer, Halberd, 2 Psycannons, Rhino]
10 Grey Knights [280][MC Hammer, Halberd, 2 Psycannons, Rhino]
Terminator Squad [225][Daemon Hammer, Psycannon, 4 Halberds]
Terminator Squad [225][Daemon Hammer, Psycannon, 4 Halberds]

Heavy Support
Land Raider Redeemer[255][Multi-Melta]
Land Raider Redeemer[255][Multi-Melta]

Total: 2000

[gendoikari87]

altered to make it more fluffy, so NOW WITH SERVITORS!


HQ
Coteaz[100]
Inquisitor[40][Hellrifle]

Troops
Warband [180][2 Heavy Bolter Servitors, 3 Jokaero, Chimera]
Warband [180][2 Heavy Bolter Servitors, 3 Jokaero, Chimera]
10 Grey Knights [270][Hammer, 2 Psycannons, Rhino]
10 Grey Knights [270][Hammer, 2 Psycannons, Rhino]
5 Terminators [225][Hammer, Psycannon]
5 Terminators [225][Hammer, Psycannon]

Heavy Support
Land Raider [255]
Land Raider [255]

Total: 2000