Female Necrons for the gynecomorphous fey of space

[Necron2.0]

A while back a certain someone who shall remain unnamed, but far from anonymous, made idle mention of interest in painting a womanly shaped Necron lord. Well, not long ago, I saw this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnnnKIJcibg

Also from the Infinity game, there's the Aleph (AI's). I have been sorely tempted to buy the starter kit for the Aleph for quite some time. I have no interest at all in the game, and I find the majority of the figures somewhat boring, but I really want to paint this figure (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-IrHgEUsVBBs/Tf0aqk-gbmI/AAAAAAAAAwY/PdoCIKDIcls/s1600/aleph2.jpgp). I've just not been able to justify the purchase up to this point.

[eldargal]

Ooh, some head swaps and some greenstuffing and I could make a decent looking Necron lord out of those. Probably not the second link though, maybe a female flayed one? Actually ew.

[Anggul]

Deceiver: "I'm bored... heheh, it would be pretty funny if I put boobs on the robot legions."


And thus did the Necrons turn upon the C'tan.

[MaltonNecromancer]

I hadn't considered using Aleph models, and I've been looking for an excuse to get some.

Hmm...

[ZenPaladin]

Ah the Aleph. Good call. I've been looking for some good fem bots to represent female lords and cryptek as well. My own limited searches have turned up suprsingly little.

Anyone got any other good sites to hunt for minis to convert for that? Maybe a place to pick up Egyptian bling?

[Necron2.0]

...maybe a female flayed one? Actually ew.

Heh. You must have seen my post from elsewhere. I've been considering some chaos (Slaanesh) flayed ones, based somewhat on that Aleph I posted, but also on >>this<< (http://www.cyberpunkreview.com/images/ghostshell02.jpg) and >>this<< (http://meuploads.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/GhostInTheShell-1285491199_1680x1050_ghost-in-the-shell.jpg). Instead of power cabling and input feeds going into her back, however, there'd be whips tipped with razors and scythes coming out of it.

[Luke Licens]

I'm toying with the idea of trying to sculpt something. A more feminine skeletal torso from scratch, a bit of knifework on the plastic warrior's hips to get an hourglass shape, and a pair of dainty (possibly heeled) feet ought to do it. I'll be sure to post pics if it ever goes beyond the drawing board. Or onto the drawing board.

[Tynskel]

I have always viewed the Necrons as gender neutral (just like the Tau).

Robots don't need boobies.

[ZenPaladin]

While it's true that robots don't need boobs the necrons were once the necrontyr. Those lords and cryptek that were female would still identify as such and would probably want forms that match. We have no immagry of the necrontyr though so it makes it somewhat difficult.

The idea of a necron queen is cool to me. Maybe someone based of off Cleopatra? I know I want my overlord to have a daughter who he favors over his sons bit who has no interest in rule much to his annoyance.

[Luke Licens]

Need? NEED?

Do 8 foot tall genetically engineered warrior poets with acid spittle and two hearts that stomp around in powered armor NEED handheld anti-personnel gyrojet missile launchers and weaponized chainsaws?

40k is not about NEED, my friend. It's about EXCESS! And what's more excessive than ancient undead robots with adamantine mammaries?

Edit to add: See also; Sanguinary Guard chest piece. I rest my case.

[Necron2.0]

Here, here, brother Luke. Well said. Adding to that, it's also true that the same 8 foot tall genetically engineered warrior limericists don't need boobies either, but those that follow Slaanesh have them anyway. The same would hold true for the Necrons.

[AbusePuppy]

While there are technically differences between male skelingtons and female skelingtons, I don't think most of them are really very noticable at 40K scale.

But whatever floats your boat, I guess.

[LOBO]

Here is a reaper alternative fembot for you
http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/robot/sku-down/50246#detail/50246_g_1

[faolan]

See, I don't view the necron minis as male minis, they're just androgynous robosexuals, like they should be.

It's an interesting note that among actual species, only humans have breasts that take part in the mating ritual, no other species has them in such a prominent position to use as a method of attraction.

[ZenPaladin]

Well I'd definitely agree that the boobs shouldn't be the big thing in the mini.

In my dream Cryptek. She would have a slightly longer leg to torso ratio. Wider pelvis. A feminine death mask and some sort of robe draped over her form. T Along with some of the standard shoulder plates and a staff. I'd also like for her to have a cool teched up harp.

It's not sexy we are all thinking about... (well most of us.) It's just feminine.

[Emerald Rose Widow]

Ooh, some head swaps and some greenstuffing and I could make a decent looking Necron lord out of those. Probably not the second link though, maybe a female flayed one? Actually ew.

ooo, use the overlord base model for the staff and for all the bits, i mean human heads are human heads, they are pretty gender neutral, so get a more feminine frame and then put on a necron head and sculpt the necron symbol on the chest, you have some rockin stuff.

[The Madman]

i would assume a female necron would just be a slimmer version of a male necron. after all, the necron bodies are prett much metal skeletons. no boobs either.

[Lerra]

I consider the Necron model to be pretty androgynous. It's a shame that all of the named characters are male, though. It seems like most people operate under the assumption that all Necrons are male, even if that doesn't make sense when you think about it. I'd probably give my Overlord a female name for some realism, but I think I would get a lot of weird looks because it runs contrary to peoples' expectations. I have a converted female Bloodthirster and have been accused of being a crazy feminist because of it :rolleyes: Some people get their panties in a twist when you start messing around with gender in 40k.

[Luke Licens]

I respectfully disagree on the androgeny of current Necron models. The broad shoulders and barrel chests seem pretty well designed to evoke a masculine image, not unlike Astartes do. St. Celesine and her Nun-Gunners manage to be curvy despite the supposed bulk of power armour.

The stylised, almost cartoony nature of 40k art makes androgeny particularly difficult, redundant, and often undesireable. The only really androgyinous models in 40k that I'm aware of are DE Wytches, which as far as I can tell are a gaggle of girly-boys and butch-biker-chicks.

A slimmer torso, significantly narrower shoulders, and a more 'hourglass' silhoutte could to a lot to make a Necron seem more feminine. Most importantly, a more feminine pose. Necrons don't seem to do 'dynamic' and all of the lords are striking dramatic poses. Use that to your advantage, and have your Necron Overlady ham it up.

Sorry if I'm harping, folks, but the "Boobs on yer robots, hur hur hur" comments are tweeking a nerve. Breasts are not the be-all end-all of feminine appearance.

[Kawauso]

I respectfully disagree on the androgeny of current Necron models. The broad shoulders and barrel chests seem pretty well designed to evoke a masculine image, not unlike Astartes do. St. Celesine and her Nun-Gunners manage to be curvy despite the supposed bulk of power armour.


See, the difference here, though, is that a woman wearing armour designed to fit the female body would have a feminine shape. Yes, the armour Sororitas wear is more stylized, but the point remains.

Skeletons don't look curvy. Ever. Secondary sex characteristics on skeletons are very subtle. As far as broad shoulders; Sisters of Battle have those, too, with pronounced pauldrons.

I'm in the "Necrons already look androgynous" camp, myself. I agree it would have been nice to have some female named characters in the codex.

[Kawauso]

I have a converted female Bloodthirster and have been accused of being a crazy feminist because of it :rolleyes: Some people get their panties in a twist when you start messing around with gender in 40k.

That's because most people are used to having characters already somewhat relatable for them, and can't understand why other people might want characters that they can relate to more easily, I think.

I can relate to what you're talking about, in the sense that I relate to characters of a non-heterosexual orientation more readily myself (being bisexual), and thus I am more often drawn to or wind up creating such characters.

I'm all for other genders/races/what have you being represented in 40k, though. Next time I expand my Guard army I'm hoping to add a number of female troops to the ranks. :) As for my Necrons - I'm assuming they're already a good mix of male and female to begin with.

[Luke Licens]

Skeletons don't look curvy. Ever. Secondary sex characteristics on skeletons are very subtle.

I find that statement misleading. Necrons aren't skeletons. They are alien robots designed to look like stylized skeletons. There's a big difference, especially when you consider the overall art design of the fictional setting. 40k, and Warhammer in general, is all about over the top exageration, not about realism.

Male characters exhibit the stereotypical 'trapezoid' torso shape (significantly broader in the chest than in the waist) that is generally associated with masculinity. The few female characters generally exhibit the classic curvy 'hourglass' shape (it's why battlesisters wear corsets).

Maybe it's my brain filtering out the ribcage-hip gap, but Necron models put me much more in mind of Conan than Marilyn Monroe. Is it wrong to want some exceptions to that? :p

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