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Deadlift
10-28-2011, 04:29 AM
http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab3/joenortonjones/IMG_0001-5.jpg

Brush set is £31 and you get one large and one standard kolinsky sable brush, a brush tin with the eavy metal logo and two pots of eavy metal medium for use as thinners for glazes etc.

The Master class book is 96 pages compilation of all the "best" masterclass articles from WD. NMM and OSL etc
£18.

Brushes look nice but a tad expensive ?

Wolfshade
10-28-2011, 04:44 AM
Wherever I have looked for kolinsky sable brushes I have always found them not to be cheap.

Deadlift
10-28-2011, 05:04 AM
I will most likely buy the brushes, I too have been looking at Kolinsky brushes, but the ones on eBay I am not sure about. I do have one of the insane detail from "the army painter" that uses rothmarder sable hair thats really quite good and not expensive but I read so much about Kolinsky brushes being really good. As I am always trying to push my painting a step further than the previous project maybe these will be a good step up.

Wildeybeast
10-28-2011, 05:52 AM
Can someone explain to me why these brushes are better than the standard brushes GW sells (other than the 'eavy metal branding)?

Unzuul the Lascivious
10-28-2011, 06:13 AM
Ooo...do I need this though? Who cares, it's Xmas soon, someone will get it for me!

wittdooley
10-28-2011, 07:27 AM
I don't know the specifics of the why, Wildy, but I can tell you from my pesonal use that the Kolinsky sable takes paint much more easily than the present Citadel ones (I actually like the citadel ones a lot, too). This is more important on smaller detail work, as the Kolinskys (or Romeos, etc...) will hold their point much better and you wont get those little 'globes' of paint on the end of the brush.

Deadlift
10-28-2011, 07:37 AM
Can someone explain to me why these brushes are better than the standard brushes GW sells (other than the 'eavy metal branding)?

Kolinsky Sable takes first place in brush hair. It is the most desired hair in a water color brush, not used in oil or acrylic painting, but works marvelously for miniature painting. It is its ability to form a perfect point that makes it the most widely used brush hair by the most experienced miniature painters. While water color artists have to pay a dear price for the large Kolinsky Sable brushes they use, miniature painters are fortunate in that they only need little Kolinsky brushes which can cost as little as 5.00 online. Kolinsky Sable is very durable and has excellent paint holding ability. It holds a lot of paint and the paint does not come off until you want it to. (Compare that to a nylon brush which is too slippery and so the paint slides right off if you load it with paint.)

Quoted from this article I found

http://www.dndlead.com/Painting/Paintbrushes.htm

Lexington
10-28-2011, 07:43 AM
Eesh. Kolinski sable brushes ain't cheap, but for $50, that box better be made of filagreed uranium.

wittdooley
10-28-2011, 08:42 AM
Bear in mind those two brushes made by Windsor & Newton would cost you around $30 to begin with. A bottle of mixing medium from tamiya is about $8. So you're only looking at $12 premium here. I'm not saying the premium isn't a bit high, but it's no diff than any other Citadel, Sony, or Apple product type premium.

Lane
10-28-2011, 02:00 PM
Wait, didn't GW claim there current line of brushes were Kolinsky sable.

IIRC a 4oz bottle of Liquitex acrylic medium is only about $8.

wittdooley
10-28-2011, 02:07 PM
The present brushes are a Kolinsky sable....but they're like the Scion of the Toyota Family. They're nice, but they're still Scions, not Lexus'. :)

Lockark
10-29-2011, 08:54 AM
I have a question. Since they obviously came from the new white dwarf, any back page previews?
=O

Deadlift
10-29-2011, 11:07 AM
I have a question. Since they obviously came from the new white dwarf, any back page previews?
=O

Sorry, just more necrons :)

MMEagle
10-29-2011, 01:19 PM
So the current ones are Kolinsky Sable, these new ones are Kolinksy sable... yet they cost £31 for 2?!
Ok £15 each. They better be Winsor and Newton series 7 quality for that price!
First I want to read reviews, though I would rarely use them.

the masterclass book on the other is a definate purchase!

warpcrafter
10-29-2011, 04:20 PM
If it were a little more and also included a fine detail brush, I might be interested. Besides, how is that medium stuff better for thinning paint than just water?

Deadlift
10-31-2011, 09:40 AM
If it were a little more and also included a fine detail brush, I might be interested. Besides, how is that medium stuff better for thinning paint than just water?

It's better than water because it's GW water :)

warpcrafter
10-31-2011, 10:14 PM
It's better than water because it's GW water :)

GW can keep their superior water, I have a kitchen faucet. I think I'll continue buying my brushes at Wal Mart thank you very much.

gcsmith
11-02-2011, 04:14 PM
Its superior to water since it wont dry out as quick as watered down, means less wasted paint plus easier blednding on the model which combined with the art of NMM ive been told is in the book leads to smexier models

wittdooley
11-02-2011, 06:33 PM
GW can keep their superior water, I have a kitchen faucet. I think I'll continue buying my brushes at Wal Mart thank you very much.

And you will continue to have shytty brushes. Enjoy.

Hive Mind
11-02-2011, 07:48 PM
Eh. For some of us painting is something to be endured. Lucky for me I have unemployed friends who will work for less than minimum wage so I contract mine out mostly.

Wolfshade
11-03-2011, 02:29 AM
Eh. For some of us painting is something to be endured. Lucky for me I have unemployed friends who will work for less than minimum wage so I contract mine out mostly.

I like your style