Chapterhouse New Release - Javelin Class Jet Bike

[chapterhousestudios]

Fellow Gamers,

It has been a little while since our last release. We have been hard at work at Chapterhouse Studios, looking for the next toy to release for the Heresy Era 40k players. I am happy to show the Javelin Class Jet Bike.

http://www.chapterhousestudios.com/image/data/product%20images/Jetbikesamplea.jpg

This multi-part customizable resin kit contains 8 resin components. We have included 2 engine options, this will allow you to make a regular and a scout version of the Javelin Jet Bike. We also included 2 different bolt gun mounts that will allow the addition of different special weapons (plasma, melta, grenade launchers etc). These conveniently fit our combi-weapon conversion bits.

Also included in the kit are a set of legs and arms that will allow you to use other companies torsos and heads to model a rider. Flight stand will be included.

Kit is shown with Chapterhouse Studios helmets and torso (not included).

http://www.chapterhousestudios.com/image/data/product%20images/JetbikesampleB.jpg


http://www.chapterhousestudios.com/image/data/product%20images/JetbikesampleFast.jpg

http://www.chapterhousestudios.com/image/data/product%20images/Jetbike%20Parts%20Photo.jpg

I am also excited to announce designs are already complete for an "attack bike" add-on module.

Sincerely,
Nick - Chapterhouse Studios LLC

[wittdooley]

This looks really fantastic, Nick. Very, very cool.

Will the flight stands be blue like that, or is that simply a product of the photo?

Also, any idea on price?

Edit: Just saw the price on dakka @ $14. Very nice price point.

[chapterhousestudios]

Thats just an artifact of the photo (was on a blue background with clear stand).

Yeah, I want you guys to be able to afford squads of these without going broke (relatively that is).

Thanks for the complimentary remarks.

[Morgan Darkstar]

It needs some wings IMHO

[theHman]

Beautiful mini, but I can't believe you guys are still in business.
Are you gonna show pics of the scout version?

[Grailkeeper]

+1 on the Wings

[daboarder]

LOVE IT.....seriously these are the bomb! I'll be ordering a squad and recomending them to a mate.

[wittdooley]

Out of curiosity, were it to have wings, where would you propose they go?

[Dalleron]

Wings might look good somewhere in the middle to back. They might even make the model look a better. To me it's a little meh.

[Grovel]

I quite like the model, but am dissapointed it doesn't come with a standard body to use, even a basic one.

At a price like that I'd quite happily buy several, but I'd like to at least have the option to put them together generically rather than be forced to source other parts to complete the model.

[wittdooley]

Dude,if you buy some from him I'll ship you a few torsos. I have about 85 of them sitting in my bitz box. I'll even throw in some heads and backpacks too.

[Lerra]

Oh now that is cool. I'll definitely be buying a few of these, probably for some mounted Sisters conversions. The front of the bike has a nice gothic feel to it that seems like it would suit Sisters.

Any chance of seeing some Sisters-like models from Chapterhouse? I know their codex is awful but lots of people collect the models and CHS wouldn't have much competition . . . GW's models are old, outdated, and expensive.

[chapterhousestudios]

Oh now that is cool. I'll definitely be buying a few of these, probably for some mounted Sisters conversions. The front of the bike has a nice gothic feel to it that seems like it would suit Sisters.

Any chance of seeing some Sisters-like models from Chapterhouse? I know their codex is awful but lots of people collect the models and CHS wouldn't have much competition . . . GW's models are old, outdated, and expensive.

All good things, yadda yadda :)

[Morgan Darkstar]

Out of curiosity, were it to have wings, where would you propose they go?

Just small ones, somewhere at the back ether above or below the engines, or both.

[Kawauso]

Just small ones, somewhere at the back ether above or below the engines, or both.

This.

Actually, I think a setup like the stabilizers on current Land Speeders would make the bikes look a lot better.

Not exactly like them, mind you.
Like, a single vertical fin on the back, and some fins on the side/bottom like those on the rear of a speeder.

[pauljc]

GW and Judge Dredd called.. they want their IPs back.. :mad:

[Lane]

I like the design but feel it is just a bit too much like a GW Bike. In fact I had to get out a SM bike to convince you didn't use a GW model and add a few bits. Also making the legs and arms, which are a very good replica of Marine parts, may be going a bit far. I would have made them compatible with SM biker legs/ arms and left them out of the kit.

[chapterhousestudios]

I like the design but feel it is just a bit too much like a GW Bike. In fact I had to get out a SM bike to convince you didn't use a GW model and add a few bits. Also making the legs and arms, which are a very good replica of Marine parts, may be going a bit far. I would have made them compatible with SM biker legs/ arms and left them out of the kit.

I disagree.. Here are the GW Jetbike and Bike and ours. Having a back end, seat and side mounted thrusters is pretty much universal about all hover bike, jet bikes. It sounds like you are saying we are not allowed to implement those in our design because GW has done so before. That is a bit limiting..

I will also point out while ours has a control panel on his legs, you will notice it is not a copy, its actually different (for those who care about such minute detail).

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSgI9KSdj3xEL0NbPOlyHiT-d6NUVQsuIuOJSHAnol-986IKq1E

http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2010/035/9/e/Space_Marine_Bike_by_NinjaSpank.png

http://www.chapterhousestudios.com/ocshop/image/data/product%20images/JetbikesampleFast.jpg

Nick - Chapterhousestudios.com

[wittdooley]

Gotta agree with Nick. I think they're more than fine here. It's a Jetbike. TBH, It doesn't even look terribly similar to any of the jetbikes in the GW art, nor does it look that similar to the Raven Guard one.

Come on, Man.

[Morgan Darkstar]

It still needs wings tho. :p

[Lockark]

I disagree.. Here are the GW Jetbike and Bike and ours. Having a back end, seat and side mounted thrusters is pretty much universal about all hover bike, jet bikes. It sounds like you are saying we are not allowed to implement those in our design because GW has done so before. That is a bit limiting..

I will also point out while ours has a control panel on his legs, you will notice it is not a copy, its actually different (for those who care about such minute detail).


No offense. But when I saw these, it was this artwork I thought of from the 40k card game. Even down to the fact it has no wings.
=P

http://emperorschildren.net/wiki/index.php?title=Image:Raelichius.jpg

Get rid of the Emperor's children bling and it's almost the exact same thing.


The bikes look nice thow. I will give you that. A nice clean look that people can bling out them selves, well haveing that heavy SM feel. The scout engiens look terrible thow I have to say. The larger bulky ones look much better. But even then they look like they could of used a tad more detail.

[chapterhousestudios]

No offense. But when I saw these, it was this artwork I thought of from the 40k card game. Even down to the fact it has no wings.
=P

http://emperorschildren.net/wiki/index.php?title=Image:Raelichius.jpg

Get rid of the Emperor's children bling and it's almost the exact same thing.


The bikes look nice thow. I will give you that. A nice clean look that people can bling out them selves, well haveing that heavy SM feel. The scout engiens look terrible thow I have to say. The larger bulky ones look much better. But even then they look like they could of used a tad more detail.

I see many differences.. The sides of the motor, the eagles everywhere, the size of the guns, placement of the guns, position of the thrusters, size of the thrusters, position of the feet mounts, etc etc.. So its not as close as you would suggest. It is a jetbike.. its a constant idea in Sci-Fi and we can say that the Judge Dread Jet Bike is a copy of GWs, or vice versa as well.

http://emperorschildren.net/wiki/images/9/96/Raelichius.jpghttp://www.chapterhousestudios.com/ocshop/image/data/product%20images/Jetbikesamplea.jpg

[JxKxR]

I don't know if it needs wings but it doesn't look finished to me. It looks small, and the cow catcher just looks ugly.

Check out this guys jet bikes if you want to know how to do it properly. http://www.lounge.belloflostsouls.net/showthread.php?t=17459

[wittdooley]

What is a cow catcher?

[Lerra]

It is a tad low on detail, but honestly, that's fine for a model like this. It means I can add stuff from my own bits collection without making the bike overly blingy, and then it will match my army better.

[Lockark]

I see many differences.. The sides of the motor, the eagles everywhere, the size of the guns, placement of the guns, position of the thrusters, size of the thrusters, position of the feet mounts, etc etc.. So its not as close as you would suggest. It is a jetbike.. its a constant idea in Sci-Fi and we can say that the Judge Dread Jet Bike is a copy of GWs, or vice versa as well.

(No offense. But it's not very nice to hotlink images from other people's websites. It eats up their bandwidth well not giving them traffic. That's why I posted it as a link originally.)

As for the bikes them self. That's all well and good sept yah know. Almost the exact same slit house.
=|

The only major diffrence I see between the two is the front. Witch in all honestly looks like a cross between that artwork and the front of the jet bike for the Master of the Raven wing. Any Elements changed from that artwork barrow heavily from other GW SM bikes/jet bikes.

You can argue all you want about jet bikes being a constant. The inspiration for the jet bike dose look distinctively GW inspired. If you want to take that as a Compliment or a insult I don't realy care.


I suggest just appreciating the part of my post were I just distinctively complimented you.




The bikes look nice thow. I will give you that. A nice clean look that people can bling out them selves, well haveing that heavy SM feel. The scout engiens look terrible thow I have to say. The larger bulky ones look much better. But even then they look like they could of used a tad more detail.

Yah know. Positive and negative criticism and all that.

[Archon]

I don´t like it much. It lacks a lot of detail, too much plain surfaces. Looks kinda unfinished. So from me a - nope.

[wittdooley]

I happen to think the Open spaces are a specific design choice so you CAN add your own bits and bobs.

I may be wrong, but I'm fairly certain the last few space army guy releases have contained loads of these spare bits....

[Lane]

I should have been clearer. This jet bike does not look like a clone of the master of raavenwing jet bike, it looks like the SM bike with jets instead of wheels.

The fuel tank, seat and rear fender area look like direct copies unless you do a detailed inspection of them.. The engine detail is different but at first glance looks like it could be GW.

I saw the extra detail on the leg, my opinion still stands.

I think you did a great job on this model. It's just that you have done such a great job, without making a direct copy of GW parts, that it appears to be a copy.

[chapterhousestudios]

Thank you for the compliments. I am pretty critical when it comes to critiques suggesting we recast or otherwise "photocopied" GW parts for obvious reasons :)

[MajorWesJanson]

I am pretty critical when it comes to critiques suggesting we recast or otherwise "photocopied" GW parts for obvious reasons :)

:rolleyes: True, it isn't recast or an exact copy, but for the rather bland detailing, I would have saaid it was an official kit. The exact rations are off, but the "fuel tank" looks extremely similar to the plastic SM bike, just this jetbike one is slightly longer. The disc on the side is familiar as well, just lacking the skull. The rear cowling again looks extremely similar, with the same angled contours of the SM bike. And the legs are nearly identical to biker legs, only bent a tad differently. The shins and Kneepads are exact, the shoes are nearly so, and the little keypad on the right leg is only different by virtue of maybe one or two buttons replacing a small arrow. The Arms are extremely similar as well.

The engine block does look nice, below the gas tank, and the cow catcher would be cool looking if it wasn't quite as tall, or the bottom was longer so that it didn't look so vertical.

The handlebars and bolter/assault guns look rather weedy, though I do like the interchangibility with the combi-weapon packs.

From the rear angle, the main engine is nice, and the bracing between the body and cow catcher is good. the big side engines seem rather plain though, I do like the little scout engines better.

The sculpting is well done, but would be better off doing more original designs in my opinion.

[Lane]

I think the Bolters may be the weak point of the model. It may just be the photography but they look a bit plain. I would prefer a kit where the guns were separate and allowed you to mount GW parts.

[chapterhousestudios]

I think the Bolters may be the weak point of the model. It may just be the photography but they look a bit plain. I would prefer a kit where the guns were separate and allowed you to mount GW parts.

Seeing as its a resin kit (and not that brittle stuff other companies use), customers will find it rather easy to shave/cut off the weapons on the kit and add whatever they want to them.

I purposely left many large areas on this kit for customers to add to, to customize towards their particular taste and factions.

There may be later kits that are kitted out in a particular style, but I see no harm at all in releasing this kit for those who would like to use the model, add some paint, decals and bits to make it look how they envision.

Nick

[soupcat]

Thank you for the compliments. I am pretty critical when it comes to critiques suggesting we recast or otherwise "photocopied" GW parts for obvious reasons :)
Yeah I suppose being a producer of cheap knock offs will do that

[Night System]

Yeah I suppose being a producer of cheap knock offs will do that

A knock of what, precisely?

Games Workshop don't produce a standard infantry jetbike. The one they do make looks nothing like the CHS version. There is a big difference between *inspired by* and *ripped off*. I think that some people are to busy hating CHS out of principle rather than giving a proper miniature review.

On a personal note: I love it! I will definitely have to get some for my World Eaters.

[Lockark]

A knock of what, precisely?

Games Workshop don't produce a standard infantry jetbike. The one they do make looks nothing like the CHS version. There is a big difference between *inspired by* and *ripped off*. I think that some people are to busy hating CHS out of principle rather than giving a proper miniature review.

On a personal note: I love it! I will definitely have to get some for my World Eaters.

Sorry man. But you are just about to fall for a troll fishing for a response.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4020/4460134178_102779e9cf.jpg

[Night System]

Sorry man. But you are just about to fall for a troll fishing for a response.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4020/4460134178_102779e9cf.jpg

True that. But the point made might benefit more people in the thread than the simple troll :p

[soupcat]

A knock of what, precisely?

Games Workshop don't produce a standard infantry jetbike. The one they do make looks nothing like the CHS version. There is a big difference between *inspired by* and *ripped off*. I think that some people are to busy hating CHS out of principle rather than giving a proper miniature review.

On a personal note: I love it! I will definitely have to get some for my World Eaters.
That comment was not specifically in regards to the jet bike (of which I feel is also pretty bad).
That comment was regard to most of the product they produce in general. They produce products suspiciously similar to those produced by GW, of which are typically of a lower quality (at least sculpt quality wise) for typically a lower price. Thus cheap knock off.
I personally think that despite it is most likely legal (did not follow the case) the products they produce and the marketing of said products are the equivlent of :
http://www.cracked.com/article_19056_the-15-most-unintentionally-hilarious-bootleg-toys_p2.html

[Lockark]

True that. But the point made might benefit more people in the thread than the simple troll :p

Oh?


That comment was not specifically in regards to the jet bike (of which I feel is also pretty bad).
That comment was regard to most of the product they produce in general. They produce products suspiciously similar to those produced by GW, of which are typically of a lower quality (at least sculpt quality wise) for typically a lower price. Thus cheap knock off.
I personally think that despite it is most likely legal (did not follow the case) the products they produce and the marketing of said products are the equivlent of :
http://www.cracked.com/article_19056_the-15-most-unintentionally-hilarious-bootleg-toys_p2.html


So far he's making a pretty good argument.
=P

[Asimodeus]

Yeah I suppose being a producer of cheap knock offs will do that

Cheap and ugly don't you mean? oh and if you have a problem with any of there non-specific ip models dont bother asking for a refund you may just get an email with a bunch of abuse.

chapterhouse sucks! :mad:

[chapterhousestudios]

That comment was not specifically in regards to the jet bike (of which I feel is also pretty bad).
That comment was regard to most of the product they produce in general. They produce products suspiciously similar to those produced by GW, of which are typically of a lower quality (at least sculpt quality wise) for typically a lower price. Thus cheap knock off.
I personally think that despite it is most likely legal (did not follow the case) the products they produce and the marketing of said products are the equivlent of :
http://www.cracked.com/article_19056_the-15-most-unintentionally-hilarious-bootleg-toys_p2.html


Cheap illegal knock offs don't you mean? oh and if you have a problem with any of there non-specific ip models dont bother asking for a refund you may just get an email with a bunch of abuse.

chapterhouse sucks!

Im sure neither of these trolling posters have actually ever ordered from me or emailed me regarding products. The haters love to talk about a product they have never actually purchased and insult my customer service emails without actually being a customer.

Out of the over 3,000 unique customers I have had, maybe only 4 have ever emailed me about quality issues and those are handled with care and fairness.

I'd love ac hance to fix any issues paying customers have had with my products, this goes especially to Mr Asimodeus, feel free to email me direct at [email protected] to explain your problem with any product I have sent you.

p.s. dont feed the trolls

[Archon Charybdis]

As a business owner myself (and having had to deal with non-customers leaving spurious complaints on Yelp), calling people with a complaint--whether you believe it's legitimate or not-- a troll, in a public forum, is unprofessional, bad marketing, and most definitely bad customer service.

[Lockark]

Im sure neither of these trolling posters have actually ever ordered from me or emailed me regarding products.

You admit your self you think their trolls. So stop feeding them.

If thier legit trolls you'd be surprised how fast they go away when you don't reply to them.
=|

(If they know they can get a reaction out of you, it makes you a target. As you become a source of "lulz".) By replying to them you don't make your self look better and if their half decent trolls they know how to drag you down lower then them in the end of the argument. Thus in the end they will always win the argument anyway.

Heck. Due to replying to them you legitimized what they have to say, and by your choice of words you validated their negative claims.

That's a Protip. Free of charge.

[soupcat]

Im sure neither of these trolling posters have actually ever ordered from me or emailed me regarding products. The haters love to talk about a product they have never actually purchased and insult my customer service emails without actually being a customer.

Out of the over 3,000 unique customers I have had, maybe only 4 have ever emailed me about quality issues and those are handled with care and fairness.

I'd love ac hance to fix any issues paying customers have had with my products, this goes especially to Mr Asimodeus, feel free to email me direct at [email protected] to explain your problem with any product I have sent you.

p.s. dont feed the trolls

So becuase I disagree with your buisness practices and find the scupts your company puts out rather unimpressive (note I spicificly mentioned scuplt quality not any sort of QA issue) Im a troll?

[Asimodeus]

Hmm troll? thats rich,

@ the bols community. Sorry if i came over that way however my feelings are quite raw when it comes to chapterhouse :mad:

@ Nick. Thank you for the offer Nick, however I am done with you and your company "no personal insult intended" I think I will leave it in the hands of the FTC.

Now I think I am about done with this thread.

[eldargal]

You might want to remember that innocence until guilt is proven is enshrined in both British and US law, so calling them illegal knockoffs is either grossly premature or erroneous depending how the court case goes.

[Asimodeus]

Point taken, I have removed the offending words.

[Morgan Darkstar]

As a business owner myself (and having had to deal with non-customers leaving spurious complaints on Yelp), calling people with a complaint--whether you believe it's legitimate or not-- a troll, in a public forum, is unprofessional, bad marketing, and most definitely bad customer service.

+1

[eldargal]

Calling people with a complaint trolls is bad, calling people who claim or imply you are a criminal trolls is not, as far as I'm concerned. Can you blame CHS for getting a bit testy when hordes of people on the internet are calling them criminals and pre-judging a court case.

[Morgan Darkstar]

Can you blame CHS for getting a bit testy when hordes of people on the internet are calling them criminals and pre-judging a court case.

chapterhouse brought it upon themselves IMHO

I am biased towards gw obviously ;)

However just looking around the forums there is alot of complaints about chapterhouses business practices and methods, for example the body of the rider of the jetbike is claimed to be their model,


Kit is shown with Chapterhouse Studios helmets and torso

when IMHO it is a space marine body with the front filed off and some minor alterations. (pic attached)

where I come from there's a saying "there's no smoke without fire"


innocence until guilt is proven is enshrined in both British and US law

unless of course you are declared an enemy combatant :p

[lattd]

I have to admit when i first saw the model it looked a lot like a space marine bike with some conversions rather than a new sculpt. Either the prow is reminiscent of battlefleet gothic ships.

[wittdooley]

Nope, because you are a insulting jerk with nothing constructive what so ever to tell for excep the quick popping in with a "you suck".
Really mature to afterwards claim innocense blaming it on business practice you know nothing of (proof?).
Go troll else where, preferably on "cheap knock of" sites that sell phone casings or car spoiler manufacturers since their business practice don't measure up to your oh so high morals.

Did you actually read your statment before posting it, or is it entirely hypocritical on purpose.

Seriously, though. If you want to bytch and moan, go create another thread please. This thread was going really well for about 3 pages, and then it all went to hell.

[Morgan Darkstar]

Did you actually read your statment before posting it, or is it entirely hypocritical on purpose?

+1


This thread was going really well for about 3 pages, and then it all went to hell.

well it is a chapterhouse thread. what did you expect, cakes & rainbows? :p

[wittdooley]

No, but in the first three pages people were at least giving fair and even criticism. The BOOM. Effing Trollhalla

[Morgan Darkstar]

No, but in the first three pages people were at least giving fair and even criticism. Then BOOM. Effing Trollhalla

Lol :D

ps.

It still needs wings.

[chapterhousestudios]

As a small business owner I do my best to help my customers with issues.

For anonymous users to come on here claiming I have done the opposite is indeed insulting.

For anonymous users to claim we recast GW parts is again insulting.

Pyriel feel free to post a green of the torso you sent me, I do not have the photo (lost int he batch of emails from a while back).

Indeed, it seems the internet is a place where the innocent must prove their innocence.

Regardless, we will continue to serve the customers we are happy to have and the ones we are soon to get with our newest items.

I do thank all of you who actually had legitimate and helpful critiques and ideas.

You will see some more items coming up relatively soon.

Nick-Chapterhousestudios.com

[Morgan Darkstar]

insulting? it certainly was not intended that way however YMMV

seriously though you can still make out the imperial eagle on the front of the torso IMO here it is again for anyone who wants to look and make up their own mind.

[chapterhousestudios]

insulting? it certainly was not intended that way however YMMV

seriously though you can still make out the imperial eagle on the front of the torso IMO here it is again for anyone who wants to look and make up their own mind.

So, you are calling me a liar, someone you have never met and who insist on telling the truth.

Amazing what people do when they do not have to do it in person.

[wittdooley]

@ Morgan - Clearly the easiest solution for Nick regarding the torso would be to use a GW bit in the picture and then notate it on the site--many other bitz/conversion sites do this; I'm sure there are issues regarding that pertaining to the present lawsuit that prevent, or discourage, that course of action.

It is what it is.

[chapterhousestudios]

@ Morgan - Clearly the easiest solution for Nick regarding the torso would be to use a GW bit in the picture and then notate it on the site--many other bitz/conversion sites do this; I'm sure there are issues regarding that pertaining to the present lawsuit that prevent, or discourage, that course of action.

It is what it is.

Yeah, but again, that would not be in our best interest at this time (its all fuzzy in a court of law), so I went a different route.

Ironically, naysayers are latching onto a piece of the kit we are not even trying to sell.

[wittdooley]

Yeah, but again, that would not be in our best interest at this time (its all fuzzy in a court of law), so I went a different route.

Ironically, naysayers are latching onto a piece of the kit we are not even trying to sell.

I assumed that was probably the case, and agree that single piece of contention is pretty ironic and laughable.

[MarneusCalgar]

I don´t understand this flame war...

- Chapterhouse must solve the legal issue with GW, but is doesn´t need to be remembered here.

- Nick, if someone is trolling or disturbing you... Why don´t you speak then with Bigred?

- Rest of people: continuing the discuss make the trolls stronger and reinforce the discussion

[Morgan Darkstar]

So, you are calling me a liar, someone you have never met and who insist on telling the truth.

Amazing what people do when they do not have to do it in person.

I don't believe I called you a liar? "to be honest I dont care if you are" I said that IMO the torso looks like it was cast from a GW torso with the eagle filed down. could I be wrong? possibly. If i am, it was a bloody good trick of the light.


I assumed that was probably the case, and agree that single piece of contention is pretty ironic and laughable.

I agree, I didn't intend to make such an issue of this I only stated my opinion. but y'know these things do happen.


No, just thought the guy was genuine at first but still waiting for proof of his claims. Guess anyone can be a lying coward on the internet these days.

Genuine or not, posts like this do not help to form a good impression of you or chapterhouse, especially since you are associated. if anything they lend credance to the claims of bad customer service IMHO.


Hehe, so people keep saying. Everyone cant be wrong now can they... Maybe those wings sound like a good idea:)

Wings Yay :D

[LordGrise]

Uhm... in the spirit of getting this thread back on track...

I'd like to register my complaint? ::grin:: I play Tau exclusively (my wife, the Minister of Finance, has this thing with me starting a second army) and I would like to know why it ain't a Fire Warrior or Pathfinder on that thng?

Failing that, I'd like to know that there is a Tau conversion kit coming soon? ::grin::

Failing that, would CHS have an issue with a few being placed into the service of the Greater Good? They were salvaged from the wreckage fields by the Farsight Enclaves and then pressed into service, you see - with improvements, of course...

In other words, I think this model rocks, and I need to know how much they are and when available soonest. Rework the front end, mount a networked markerlight, maybe a Seeker missile, maybe two - excuse me, must print the pic off so I can trace it and get to work...

[Sister Rosette Soulknyt]

CHS, you do great work, forget the trolls and abusers on her who only want there 15 seconds of fame for being rememered for childish comments.

For me, i like it, it's meant to be used by SM's, so how far really can you design an item that doesn't look all Space Marine?
For those who don't like it, just say"don't like it", for those like Lockart who obviously will hate everything CHS makes, regardless if it was gold plated or not, who cares what you think.
Seriously do you really need to express your obvious nerdrage just because someone wanted to make parts thay "may" be used on GW kits? Just shows your a GW employee i think.

Me, i plan to buy these bikes when they are available, didn't think i wanted to include bikes, but jetbikes would look so much cooler with my Salamander army.
i don't care its against the fluff of they use less bikes because of the high gravity world they live on. They look great, got charisma to convert and will post pics when i complete them.

Its ridiculous that people are complaining about CHS, they are doing you all a service that GW is just showing they don't care for you or me.
By bringing out all the parts, conversions and new kits that GW will never expand into, they are improving the game for everyone. More smaller companies should do it.
If GW actually gave a crap and made just bits, well would you still complain??

GW want you to waste all your money buying whole kits just for that one part your really after.
Good on you CHS, don't let the voice of a few disturb your work

[Jambo]

they would look amazing in a judge dredd style army as the lawmaster bike very cool

[Sister Rosette Soulknyt]

I vote for Arbites on Jetbikes :p

[wittdooley]

Double counter-fluff whammy there. Not just bikes...JET bikes. Wouldn't find many of those in a salamanders armoury...

[chapterhousestudios]

Uhm... in the spirit of getting this thread back on track...

I'd like to register my complaint? ::grin:: I play Tau exclusively (my wife, the Minister of Finance, has this thing with me starting a second army) and I would like to know why it ain't a Fire Warrior or Pathfinder on that thng?

Failing that, I'd like to know that there is a Tau conversion kit coming soon? ::grin::

Failing that, would CHS have an issue with a few being placed into the service of the Greater Good? They were salvaged from the wreckage fields by the Farsight Enclaves and then pressed into service, you see - with improvements, of course...

In other words, I think this model rocks, and I need to know how much they are and when available soonest. Rework the front end, mount a networked markerlight, maybe a Seeker missile, maybe two - excuse me, must print the pic off so I can trace it and get to work...

How about some altenative arms and heads for battlesuites? Get your juices flowing any?


CHS, you do great work, forget the trolls and abusers on her who only want there 15 seconds of fame for being rememered for childish comments.

For me, i like it, it's meant to be used by SM's, so how far really can you design an item that doesn't look all Space Marine?
For those who don't like it, just say"don't like it", for those like Lockart who obviously will hate everything CHS makes, regardless if it was gold plated or not, who cares what you think.
Seriously do you really need to express your obvious nerdrage just because someone wanted to make parts thay "may" be used on GW kits? Just shows your a GW employee i think.

Me, i plan to buy these bikes when they are available, didn't think i wanted to include bikes, but jetbikes would look so much cooler with my Salamander army.
i don't care its against the fluff of they use less bikes because of the high gravity world they live on. They look great, got charisma to convert and will post pics when i complete them.

Its ridiculous that people are complaining about CHS, they are doing you all a service that GW is just showing they don't care for you or me.
By bringing out all the parts, conversions and new kits that GW will never expand into, they are improving the game for everyone. More smaller companies should do it.
If GW actually gave a crap and made just bits, well would you still complain??

GW want you to waste all your money buying whole kits just for that one part your really after.
Good on you CHS, don't let the voice of a few disturb your work

Thanks, I guess I keep forgetting that there are fans out there of GW who have never dealt with me and my company before and insist on spreading false-impressions and half-truths to sour other browsers opinions of us. If our sales prove anything, it should be we are getting a larger customer base every month regardless of the ill-wishes of the "white knights" out there.

I know how rare the unhappy customer is, I just have to remember that.


Double counter-fluff whammy there. Not just bikes...JET bikes. Wouldn't find many of those in a salamanders armoury...

True.. I always envision these for Pre-Heresy style armies and the Raven Guard, White Scars and even chaos armies out there (since they would have access to ancient tech still).

Nick - Chapterhouse Studios

[JxKxR]

How about some altenative arms and heads for battlesuites? Get your juices flowing any?



Ok, you have my attention. Is there any way you could make some battle suit arms that are holding the guns like a gun? Like have a plasma rifle with under slung missile pod.

Can't wait to see the heads. :D

[wittdooley]

True.. I always envision these for Pre-Heresy style armies and the Raven Guard, White Scars and even chaos armies out there (since they would have access to ancient tech still).

Nick - Chapterhouse Studios

Oh yeah. My jetbikes will all be in my Sammael retinue. Woo hoo!

[Sister Rosette Soulknyt]

Well as Salamanders are a original Legion, i would envision they would still have a few Jetbikes locked away as relics and considering the artistic qualities Salamanders show its very possible.
Besides they have to fight on worlds sometimes without high gravity like there home, its possible they use them for that purpose solely.

I'm looking at the Jetbike, and wondering would a sidecar from the attack bike fit on one to make it an attack-jetbike???
Or Nick, will you be doing an add on latter??

Well CHS, i've ordered everything from Salamanders shoulder pads, LR kits, Rhino Kits, Stormshields, Chaplain, skull helmets, LR doors and now i'm eying off these jetbikes.

[doom-kitten]

Man those are awesome, just think of the potential in a Horus Heresy army when jetbikes where current Imperial tech. Plus the Dark Angels have a dude on a jetbike, so why can't the Salamanders? Kinda wish thay make some Sisters parts so I would have to waste my monies making combi-flamers and melta's. Do they have Battle Sister stuff? Ohhh must check.

[chapterhousestudios]

Well as Salamanders are a original Legion, i would envision they would still have a few Jetbikes locked away as relics and considering the artistic qualities Salamanders show its very possible.
Besides they have to fight on worlds sometimes without high gravity like there home, its possible they use them for that purpose solely.

I'm looking at the Jetbike, and wondering would a sidecar from the attack bike fit on one to make it an attack-jetbike???
Or Nick, will you be doing an add on latter??

Well CHS, i've ordered everything from Salamanders shoulder pads, LR kits, Rhino Kits, Stormshields, Chaplain, skull helmets, LR doors and now i'm eying off these jetbikes.

Well we do make a magnetic switchable combi-melta and flamer kit.

No side car is in the future, we have a more novel idea for out "attack" jetbike. The design is done, I just need to have it printed and molded.

[Sister Rosette Soulknyt]

I agree with doom-kitten, if you were to make Sisters of Battle stuff, i'd go broke buying more from you again.
Wishlist:
Backpacks with braziers of flame
Rhino/Immolator kits
A Connoness special character
and maybe scenery befitting.

But i understand with all your other work you must be busy, but i can dream........
Think when they are available i will be buying 3 Jetbikes.

[Psychosplodge]

My initial thoughts was it was a conversion kit for the bike.

I agree with the "It needs wings and tail fin" idea that's been mentioned. It just needs that to look "right" IMO.
Still think the chibi-hawk mod is the best CHS kit.

[Lerra]

Imo, the "rule of cool" trumps fluff. If it looks good enough, you can modify the fluff to fit it. I doubt anyone you played against would complain.

[Asymmetrical Xeno]

At the risk of being flamed - and this isnt really aimed at anyone inparticular, so don't take this as an attack, I don't get the critisicm on 3rd party companies (?).

I don't personally like or support them as I personally enjoy companies that have some
artistic value and originality*, but one can hardly be blamed for trying to make a living - besides GW started off making miniatures for DnB, and practically all of their races are ripoffs of pop-culture sci-fi tropes (that's kinda why we enjoy it, isnt it? you can play a game where terminators and alien xenomorphs fight in the same setting). Just my thoughts on that subject anyone, you are free to disagree of course :)

As for the actual miniature - objectively, id say it's quite decent. Plain and generic enough to allow customisation making it very functional for the variety of armies it's intended to be used in. Besides, I personally dislike the mass amount of bling and over-sharpness of GW stuff these days.

* allthough if they did something like arbites, enslavers, umbra ect id probably pick something like that up - but since they only care about the business side (fair enough!) it's probably not profitable enough.

[chapterhousestudios]

The Javelin Jetbike (http://chapterhousestudios.com/webshop/component/virtuemart/?page=shop.product_details&category_id=4&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=131) is now on the site and available for sale.

Here is a teaser for the design of the Pilum Class Heavy Attack Jet Bike. This kit will consist of the original Javelin kit with the addition of side mounted heavy weapons and a heavier engine and control surfaces.

http://www.chapterhousestudios.com/image/data/product%20images/CH_jb_freeadviceconcept.jpg

Have a good holiday week!

Also check out our newly launched website.

Nick - Chapterhouse Studios LLC

[Maelstorm]

Can you mod them up to stand-in for the new Necron Codex Tomb Blades?!!

They have set the point cost low at 20 points each for you to want to buy 15 kits to replace the nerfed old Necron Destroyer kits (now 40-60 points each).

[templarboy]

Can you mod them up to stand-in for the new Necron Codex Tomb Blades?!!

They have set the point cost low at 20 points each for you to want to buy 15 kits to replace the nerfed old Necron Destroyer kits (now 40-60 points each).

The Tomb Blades in the codex look really different. I would think it would be easier to construct them from materials from the new Necron kits out there. Putting Necrons on these bikes would look really odd imho. There are quite a few conversions on the interwebs that look boss for the Tomb Blade.

[Maelstorm]

Here's to hoping Chapterhouse comes out with one less expensive first!

[LordGrise]

I like the Pilum even better than I like the Javelin. ::grin::

[chapterhousestudios]

More exciting news (for me anyways).

The new website is up and launched, this implements real time inventory control (a headache I was constantly dealing with).

Nick

[HsojVvad]

I can't see any pics on page one. All I see is small red Xs. After looking throught the threads, I finally saw a pic. A bit boring, maybe it's the colour. Not seeing it painted, I am not to thrilled with it. But seeing this pic


The Javelin Jetbike (http://chapterhousestudios.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=219) is now on the site and available for sale.

Here is a teaser for the design of the Pilum Class Heavy Attack Jet Bike. This kit will consist of the original Javelin kit with the addition of side mounted heavy weapons and a heavier engine and control surfaces.

http://www.chapterhousestudios.com/image/data/product%20images/CH_jb_freeadviceconcept.jpg

Have a good holiday week!

Also check out our newly launched website.

Nick - Chapterhouse Studios LLC

I love it. That is really good. How come I don't see no option to get that or buy the parts to make it? Now this I really want. Just wish I had the money for it. Hopefully once Christmas is done, wifey will let me get some "toys" formyself. :)

Nice job there CH.

[chapterhousestudios]

I can't see any pics on page one. All I see is small red Xs. After looking throught the threads, I finally saw a pic. A bit boring, maybe it's the colour. Not seeing it painted, I am not to thrilled with it. But seeing this pic



I love it. That is really good. How come I don't see no option to get that or buy the parts to make it? Now this I really want. Just wish I had the money for it. Hopefully once Christmas is done, wifey will let me get some "toys" formyself. :)

Nice job there CH.

You dont see the parts for that kit yet because we are working on production for it. That will be the heavier version of the regular bike (aka Attack version). I am hoping to have it ready for sales in 4-6 weeks.