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DukeCypher
09-08-2009, 05:50 AM
Hi there, i need your thoughts about this list.

Idea is to use the tanks to kill what is running around, the vendettas as tank or char killers
The vets are used as needed (flank or infiltrate)
The platton outflanks if needed.
Also the vendettas can take a unit to any objective

HQ

CCS 50
Medi pack 30
3xPlasma gun 45
Astropath 30
Chimera 55
210

Elites

Guardsman Marbo 65

Troops

Veteran Squad 70
Power Fist 15
3xMelta Gun 30
115

Veteran Squad 70
Sgt. Harker 55
3xSniper 15
Autocannon 10
150

Infantry Platoon 30
Al'Rahem 70
100

Infantry Squad 1 50
Grenade Luncher 5
55

Infantry Squad 2 50

Infantry Squad 3 50

Special Weapon Squad 35
3xFlamer 15
Demolition Charge 20
70

Special Weapon Squad 35
3xGrenade Luncher 15
Demolition Charge 20
70
425

Fast Attack

Vendetta 130
Heavy Bolter Sponsons 10
140

Vendetta 130
Heavy Bolter Sponsons 10
140

Vendetta 130
Heavy Bolter Sponsons 10
140

Heavy Support

Leman Russ Battle Tank 150
Lascannon 15
Heavy Bolter Sponsons 20
185

Leman Russ Battle Tank 150
Lascannon 15
Heavy Bolter Sponsons 20
185

Leman Russ Executioner 190
Lascannon 15
Heavy Bolter Sponsons 40
245

All in all 2000

RocketRollRebel
09-08-2009, 08:46 AM
Looks pretty solid to me. How have the Al'Rahim lists worked for you? I've been curious but never tried one. My only suggestion would maybe be to drop the las cannons from the russ's. You could invest the points into an Officer of the Fleet maybe? Also I'm not a big fan of medics really. FNP on our boys isn't that great and besides they are rolling in a chimera so they are pretty well protected from any small arms fire coming their way. Also i'd rather buy two more plasma guns then the 30pt insurance policy that the medic provides.

Desaster
09-08-2009, 07:28 PM
Looks good, except the Vets with Harker - if you want them as a fire base, put them in a chimera (and IMHO Harker is way to expensive to waste him as a way to get an additional hBolter).

If you want to make use of Harkers abilities, go for Plasma guns, Melta guns or grenade launchers with Demolitions.

And there's a mistake in the Special Weapon Squads: They can have only 2 flamers + demo charge. The demo charegs count as one of their 3 special weapons. I prefer 2 demo charges and a single flamer or Melta gun.

And don't use Vendettas with sponsons - better replace one with a Valk with Multilaser, sponsons and Rocket Pods.

RocketRollRebel
09-08-2009, 09:29 PM
Harker is good as an outflanking delivery system. I've used him so that I can out flank a squad with demolitions and 3 meltas.

Chumbalaya
09-09-2009, 07:02 AM
[quote]HQ

CCS 50
Medi pack 30
3xPlasma gun 45
Astropath 30
Chimera 55
210

Seems pricey, plasma really isn't all that hot.


Guardsman Marbo 65

Good points filler.


Veteran Squad 70
Power Fist 15
3xMelta Gun 30
115

Nix the powerfist, you want to avoid assault.


Veteran Squad 70
Sgt. Harker 55
3xSniper 15
Autocannon 10
150

Good objective capping unit, sit back and blast away.


Infantry Platoon 30
Al'Rahem 70
100

Al'Rahem sucks, especially with the platoon set up you've got. Outflanking with a bunch of useless squads isn't going to accomplish anything.


Infantry Squad 1 50
Grenade Luncher 5
55

Infantry Squad 2 50

Infantry Squad 3 50

Garbage, lasguns don't do anything.


Special Weapon Squad 35
3xFlamer 15
Demolition Charge 20
70

Special Weapon Squad 35
3xGrenade Luncher 15
Demolition Charge 20
70

It's 3 special weapons total, and don't bother. PCS does this job anyway.


Vendetta 130
Heavy Bolter Sponsons 10
140

Vendetta 130
Heavy Bolter Sponsons 10
140

Vendetta 130
Heavy Bolter Sponsons 10
140

Good, you may be better off sticking SWS or IST squads in here.


Leman Russ Battle Tank 150
Lascannon 15
Heavy Bolter Sponsons 20
185

Leman Russ Battle Tank 150
Lascannon 15
Heavy Bolter Sponsons 20
185

Leman Russ Executioner 190
Lascannon 15
Heavy Bolter Sponsons 40
245

Hull lascannon and heavy bolter sponsons are crap, too expensive for no real use. Basic Russes just need a hull heavy flamer, Exec needs all plasma plus a heavy flamer.

It's not very good to be honest. You have no real focus and the entire army is based on 6 vehicles. You have no melta, so AV14 will roll you, even AV13 will give you problems. With cover how it is, Battle Cannons aren't as effective as you'd think.

I'd pick up Vets in Chimeras with 3 meltas to bulk out your Troops choices. A platoon of 2 infantry squads and some SWS to ride in Valks would be nice too, use those infantry to shield your static tanks from assaults and outflankers. Swapping Russes for Demolishers would also be handy.