Eldar Pegasus superheavy scratchbuild

[eldargal]

A chap on Warseer, Chandrila, is building this fantastic scratchbuilt Eldar superheavy vehicle based on this art from the 5th ed BRB:
http://eldar.arhicks.co.uk/miniatures/craftworld/images/pegasus_1_1.jpg

I have his permission to post pictures here as I think it is the most impressive Eldar scratchbuild I've ever seen.

Here (http://eldar.arhicks.co.uk/index.php) is his website.

Concept art:
http://eldar.arhicks.co.uk/miniatures/craftworld/images/pegasus_1_26.jpg

WIP pictures:
Front:
http://eldar.arhicks.co.uk/miniatures/craftworld/images/pegasus_1_28.JPG

Anti grav vanes:
http://eldar.arhicks.co.uk/miniatures/craftworld/images/pegasus_1_27.JPG

Project outline:

By far my most ambitious project to date, the Eldar Pegasus is a scratchbuilt superheavy transport. Its design is based on a tiny image of a vehicle from a piece of artwork of the Lugganath craftworld, seen in the 5th edition Warhammer 40,000 main rulebook. The concept for it had been floating in the back of my head since the rulebook was first released, but I only recently came up with a design that I was happy with. This is intended to be my last project before I concentrate on completing my other half-finished conversions and start actually painting my collection...

date: 2011 - present
components: Parts from 4x Eldar Falcon kits, 1x Wave Serpent kit, 1x Forge World Type II Falcon conversion kit, 1x Forge World Phantom Titan D-cannon, Forge World Firestorm targeter, plasticard, Green Stuff, white Milliput, sytrene tubing (various diameters), 6mm diameter clear acrylic rod, neodymium rare earth magnets (various sizes), brass rod

[eldargal]

WIP pictures continued:

Rear compartment:
http://eldar.arhicks.co.uk/miniatures/craftworld/images/pegasus_1_23.JPG

Rear view:
http://eldar.arhicks.co.uk/miniatures/craftworld/images/pegasus_1_14.JPG

http://eldar.arhicks.co.uk/miniatures/craftworld/images/pegasus_1_31.JPG

Mock up:
http://eldar.arhicks.co.uk/miniatures/craftworld/images/pegasus_1_32.JPG

[eldargal]

Mock up with Wings:
http://eldar.arhicks.co.uk/miniatures/craftworld/images/pegasus_1_33.JPG

Front shots:
http://eldar.arhicks.co.uk/miniatures/craftworld/images/pegasus_1_38.JPG
http://eldar.arhicks.co.uk/miniatures/craftworld/images/pegasus_1_39.JPG

Wing close up:
http://eldar.arhicks.co.uk/miniatures/craftworld/images/pegasus_1_36.JPG

[eldargal]

Upper hull/compartment roof:
http://eldar.arhicks.co.uk/miniatures/craftworld/images/pegasus_1_34.JPG

Detail work:
http://eldar.arhicks.co.uk/miniatures/craftworld/images/pegasus_1_41.JPG

Progress so far:
http://eldar.arhicks.co.uk/miniatures/craftworld/images/pegasus_1_43.JPG
http://eldar.arhicks.co.uk/miniatures/craftworld/images/pegasus_1_44.JPG

[Slug]

Wow, incredible skill with plasicard, this guy should honestly do vehicle sculpts for GW. The precision of the cutting is amazing. Truly I am in awe, can't wait to see the finished product once painted, I doubt many will think it is actually scratch built and not Forge World.

[eldargal]

Yep, a couple of people including myself have suggested he show it to FW and hope he can get it produced. Small chance but I've wanted one since I saw the BRB art. It really is incredible skill level.

[fuzzbuket]

wow amazing! i just checked out his site too! that guy has some serious talent!

[DadExtraordinaire]

Upper hull/compartment roof:
http://eldar.arhicks.co.uk/miniatures/craftworld/images/pegasus_1_34.JPG

Detail work:
http://eldar.arhicks.co.uk/miniatures/craftworld/images/pegasus_1_41.JPG

Progress so far:
http://eldar.arhicks.co.uk/miniatures/craftworld/images/pegasus_1_43.JPG
http://eldar.arhicks.co.uk/miniatures/craftworld/images/pegasus_1_44.JPG

Thank you Eldargal for sharing this with us all. Stunning work. How and with what, has Chandrila used to create the model out of plasticard? Has Chandrila used a CAD program? Many thanks

[bloodangel 83]

nice work.

[eldargal]

As far as I know he just cut it and shaped it normally using the art as a guide.

[DrLove42]

Absolutly beautiful. What rules is he planning on using?

[DrWobbles]

SWEET SASPARILLA! i want one.

I wonder what kinda rules would be applied to such a fine piece of work.


EDIT: hmmm... seems like these doctors think alike. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8UOOxbfFYc

[eldargal]

He hasn't decided on the details of the rules, just that it is going to have a high transportation capacity (30 models perhaps) and I think a fairly minimal armament.

[Snyderson]

Stunning, absolutely stunning! This man is gifted!

[SotonShades]

I think my heart skipped several beats seeing those pictures! Don't think I've ever seen such smooth curves on a scratchbuilt, let alone curves with grooves cut in to them. Please keep us posted on his progress eldargirl. Fingers crossed the FW do like/can take this forward, mostly because I want to play against one (slim chance if there is only one in the world :P)

[Bigthunda]

Pegasus...where are the wings and hooves and majestic, flowing mane? And creepy horse teeth?

[Kieranator K82]

He has to paint it sky blue, with rainbow-pattern details. Then he will be the most awesome person ever.

[Bigred]

Hey Eldargal,

Let him know that once the model is completed and painted I would be more than happy to work with him and create an apocalypse datasheet for his baby!

I have a bit of experience in that department.

-bigred

[lowdog]

Gorgeous. Can't wait to see painted pics of the finished model. Could we also get some next to some infantry for scale?

[Meph]

Sweetbabyjesus... what an impressive build...

[Wildeybeast]

Yep, a couple of people including myself have suggested he show it to FW and hope he can get it produced. Small chance but I've wanted one since I saw the BRB art. It really is incredible skill level.

That does look amazing, but he should carefully consider submitting to FW. GW's standard policy on submitted artwork, articles, models, photos etc is that the creator surrenders any and all copyright and IP rights wholly to GW in perpetuity (not that this should come as a surprise to anyone). So unless he is looking for a job, I'd think carefully about giving up his rights as designer of the model. (Though as some of it is GW parts they probably already have some copyright ownership.)

[eldargal]

Well, if he chooses to do it, and he has given no indication he is considring it as far as I know, one opes FW would treat it like a piece of freelance work and pay him an agreed sum both parties agree on. As it uses GW parts he can't make copies, but then he hasn't given any indication he cares about that either.:) I think it would be a shame for such a beautiful scratchbuild to stay in relative obscurity but that is up to him.

[eldargal]

The rules:


The current WIP rules are as follows (comments and ideas welcome):

Pegasus - 375 points
Type: Superheavy tank, fast, skimmer
Armour: 12/12/11 (same as Scorpion, Cobra)
Structure points: 3 (same as Scorpion, Cobra)
Weapons: Scatter laser (mounted under cockpit), Phoenix missile launcher (probably going to be in the wing pylons, but only counts as one weapon)
BS: 3 (same as Wave Serpent)
Transport capacity: 30 (may not transport other vehicles, walkers or monstrous creatures - but can transport jetbikes in accordance with Apocalypse superheavy transport rules)
Fire points: 0
Access points: One ramp to rear (allows 2 units to disembark per turn, may assault)
Options: The Pegasus may be upgraded with the following: vectored engines (+40pt), star engines (+30pt)
Special rules:
Targeting systems: Thanks to advanced targeting sensors, the weapon systems on the Pegasus count as twin-linked and may re-roll to hit.
Pegasus Energy Field: The Pegasus employs an up-rated version of the protective force field found on Wave Serpents. Any ranged attack above S6 that hits the front or side arcs has its strength reduced to S6. Similarly, any ranged attack striking the rear above S8 is reduced to S8. Additionally, all ranged attacks never roll more than +1D6 for armour penetration. Close combat attacks are unaffected.
Suppression field: Once per game, the Pegasus may forgo shooting and instead divert power to its Energy Field generators, producing a huge pulse of energy that radiates outwards from the vehicle. All enemy units within 2D6" are automatically hit by a S3, AP -, Pinning attack that ignores cover. Vehicles suffer a single glancing hit on their side armour.

Thoughts? Is the suppression field too good? I've left off Eldar Titan holo-fields because I think it would make the thing too survivable and standard Wave Serpents can't even take the regular Holo-fields as an upgrade. The improved Energy Field and 3 Structure Points ought to take care of most things I'd have thought? Scorpions and Cobras can't take Vectored Engines or Star Engines as upgrades but the Lynx can (which is where I got the higher points costs from); I figure that the Pegasus would benefit from being able to take those due to its role.

But what do I know, this is all theoretical - I haven't actually played a game of 40K in years :shifty: (a combination of 3,000-odd points of half-finished, unpainted models, little spare time and living in a part of Oxfordshire that appears to have virtually no wargaming)...

[wittdooley]

People are having a Shyt-fit about the LR Achilles and it's armour; the force field on this thing takes the Achilles and ramps it up to 11. Nothing hitting it with over St8, and nothing rolls 2D6 for pen? Seems a bit much to me, particularly when coupled with the fact that it is a super-heavy that can transport 30.

Personally, I don't think an assault ramp off the back of the vehicle makes sense. So, in order to assault, you have to run to the front of the ship? The rule doesn't bother me, just assaulting from behind seems a bit *** backward (bad pun intentional).

I think the supression field rule is fine. It's only a S3 hit, which even against IG would require 4s to wound.

[eldargal]

Well bear in mind it isn't heavily armed and things like D weapons will still crack it open like an egg.

[wittdooley]

So the force field doesn't reduce the D Weapon?

[eldargal]

Destroyer weapons in Apoca don't roll for armour penetration, so it shouldn't affect them.:)

[2d6]

Holy crap! Wow that is some impressive work. I wish I had the engineering prowess to build something like that. VERY NICE!


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[Archon Charybdis]

So the force field doesn't reduce the D Weapon?

No, neither do Wave Serpent shields. Destroyer weapons don't really have a S technically, they simply inflict automatic penetrating hits. And besides, you drop a melta in behind it, and while it may not get 2d6, it still glances on a 3+. Also, melee attacks are unaffected, so a chainfist or MC could make pretty short work of it. It's extremely resistant to shooting, I'll give it that, but it's also almost 400pts with minimal weaponry.

[Danny CYanide]

That really is an incredible scratch build! I wish I had even a tenth of that talent!

[eldargal]

A couple more pictures:
http://eldar.arhicks.co.uk/miniatures/craftworld/images/pegasus_1_46.JPG
http://eldar.arhicks.co.uk/miniatures/craftworld/images/pegasus_1_47.JPG

And updated rules:




Pegasus - 375 points
Type: Superheavy tank, fast, skimmer
Armour: 12/12/11
Structure points: 3
Weapons: Scatter laser (mounted under cockpit), Phoenix missile launcher (probably going to be in the wing pylons, but only counts as one weapon)
BS: 3
Transport capacity: 40 (may not transport other vehicles, walkers or monstrous creatures - but can transport jetbikes in accordance with Apocalypse superheavy transport rules)
Fire points: 0
Access points: One ramp to rear (allows 3 units to disembark per turn, may assault)
Options: The Pegasus may be upgraded with the following: vectored engines (+40pt), star engines (+30pt)
Special rules:
Targeting systems: Thanks to advanced targeting sensors, the weapon systems on the Pegasus count as twin-linked and may re-roll to hit.
Pegasus Energy Field: The Pegasus employs an up-rated version of the protective force field found on Wave Serpents. Any ranged attack above S6 that hits the front or side arcs has its strength reduced to S7. Similarly, any ranged attack striking the rear above S8 is reduced to S8. Additionally, all ranged attacks never roll more than +1D6 for armour penetration. Close combat attacks are unaffected.
Suppression Pulse: Once per game, the Pegasus may forgo shooting and instead divert power to its Energy Field generators, producing a huge pulse of disruptive electromagnetic energy that radiates outwards from the vehicle. All enemy units within 2D6" are automatically hit by a S3, AP -, Pinning attack that ignores cover. For vehicles within range of the pulse, roll a D6: 1-2 = Crew shaken, 3-4 = Crew stunned, 5 = Weapon destroyed, 6 = Immobilised. Due to their protective shields and multiple backup systems, superheavy vehicles are unaffected by the pulse.

Thoughts? I've incorporated some suggestions - I've increased the transport capacity and the number of units that can disembark per turn and changed how the suppression pulse works slightly.

More photos to follow in the next few days.