WD381 September

[Morgan Darkstar]

EDIT "sorry if some of this has already been covered or not specifically 40k maybe there should be a White Dwarf section of the lounge?"

Well got my september white dwarf, strangely enough i bought it from a flgs so much for cracking down on leaks GW. "The more you squeeze the more slips through your fingers"

Initial reaction from skimming through is impressed.

one curious thing is the lack of the backpage 'coming next issue'

some other details gnoblars have been removed from the ogre battalion other contents unaffected price is £60
"gnoblars are absent from mention in general throughout the ogre article, nobody likes a gnoblar."

Seahammer poster reads as "Wanted, Count Noctilus. For more information, contact Captain Jaego Roth of the Heldenhammer."

[MarneusCalgar]

And... what about Sisters??

[Morgan Darkstar]

And... what about Sisters??

to be honest i am hesitant to comment on sister's as i am not familiar with the WH codex so cannot compare but it looks ok 'EDIT "first impressions are never what they seem" :(

Penetent engines can be taken in Three's

was there anything specific you wanted to know?

[MarneusCalgar]

Just take a look at the codex pages, like last month´s ones...

But thanks, Morgan!

[Morgan Darkstar]

Apparently i am not the first to get my issue early, should have checked first :p

this is accurate from what i am reading.


Okay here we go, got the WD in my hands.

Lots of shocks, and some of NOW have more reason to winge than before IMO, so for all those that said wait until the second part came out, well......WE TOLD YOU SO.
IMO, this is a travesty of crud, wasted time, laziness and poor handling from a company such as GW.

This is what you get now.
Firstly whats NOT available now:
Blessed Weapon
Book of St Lucius
Brazier of Holy Fire
Cloak of St Aspira
Litanies of Faith
Mantle of Ophelia
Praesidium Protectiva
Purity Seals
Sacred Banner of the Order Militant
Sarissa
Blessed Ammunition
Holy Icon
Holy Promethium
Laud Hailers

All those are now missing from 3rd edition, meaning nearly all of the Wargear good for SoB are now gone, yep, GW right royally shafted them here.

What you get though:
Laud Hailers for squads; unit within 12" on a 6 on d6 get a Faith point back
Simulacrum Imperialus; re-rolls faith tests now
Chirurgeons tools; grant FNP
Blessed Banner; within 12" re-roll Moral/Pinning and score 1 extra wound in CC while she is alive.

Rundown of each unit:
St. Celestine is 115 points
Cannoness is 65 point + wargear (no jump packs anymore but can take a Rosarious)
Sororitas Command Squads 115 points for 3 Celestians, 1 Dialogus, 1 Hospitaler, can take 3 heavy weapons
Uriah and Kyrinov both 90 points.
Ecclesiachy Confessors 75 + wargear
Battle Conclave 15 points each (can take a transport now)
Ecclesiarchy Priest 45 plus wargear.
Celestian Squad 80 = 15 per Celestian for additional 5 + wargear
Repentia Squad 90 + 17 per for additional 5, (now max 10 not 20)
Battlesister Squad 125 +12 each for additional 10 (max size 10-20, can choose any heavy weapon now)
Rhino 35
Immolator 65
Seraphin 80 + 15 each for additional 5 (2xhand flamers cost 20 per model or Inferno costs 30)
Dominion 70 +13 per additional upto 5. (have to take 10 to get 4x Special Weapons now)
Retributor Squad 65 +12 each (can take HF, MM or HB) now useful in Immolators.
Excorsist 135 (NO change to stats, still only glances AV14 on a 6)Penitant Engines 85 each (squads of 3 comes with 2x heavy flamers now)So over all, not happy, sad to see them being shafted as they are. Celestians can't complete with the likes of Paladins, Sangiunory gaurds or any other elite specialist. You cant take 4 special weapon Dominion squads in Immolators now, you need more Rhinos. Still lacking any long range weapons to take on AV3+ (big let down for the Excorsist), and loosing out on Celestians gaining any form of CC weapon (only Superior can) is painful.So overall prices are up from 11 points overall, loosing valuable wargear, and NO new units to counter codex broken armies like BA or GK's is just a let down.I stand by that as soon as i heard of the WD release, i knew GW would never commit to feasible play with the SoB, i stand by my words that GW has made a mockery of SoB and poorly submitted itself in any form of explanation to how truely crap this WD codex is.I plan to test these rules this weekend in a 1,000 point tournament.

II wont say the codex is awful but it is overcosted.

I think the main focus should be is it fun to play? not "omg this is so awful its not as "powerful" as other codexes e.g. GK and i will never be able to win with it" note just a example not a dig at anyone.

anyways off to bed now, if anyone cannot wait until saturday and wants any specific details please ask, although someone else will probably have answered it elsewhere! :p :D

[Wildeybeast]

Lack of 'coming next month' + vampire pirate picture = seahmmer in October :)

[Morgan Darkstar]

Lack of 'coming next month' + vampire pirate picture = seahmmer in October :)

I am still holding out for the Necron announcement at gamesday.

[chromedog]

They probably won't do any necron announcements before GD Oz (when they release Necrons the following week).