Sisters of Battle now on GW.com

[JMichael]

GW has moved teh Sisters from Witch Hunters to Sisters of Battle.
Forgive me if this is in the 'Sisters WD codex 'leaked' thread. But that one is getting waaay long and thought we could use another one!

Interesting note on the website: They now list the heavy weapons (Hvy Flamer, Hvy Bolter, Multi-Melta) in the Elites, Troops, and Heavy Support sections.
Would be nice to have the Hvy Bolter option with my regular Sisters.
I did notice that the Hvy Flamer was pictured with the Retributors in the WD codex.

[eldargal]

Nice, character prices for individual models.

[isotope99]

They can shift them around all they like, until we get plastic infantry at a realistic price point this army will be stuck in a tiny niche.

[Lancel]

I did notice that the Hvy Flamer was pictured with the Retributors in the WD codex.

The codex and a couple other areas have already pretty well confirmed that Retributors can now be equipped with 4x Heavy Flamers.


Nice, character prices for individual models.

Well, at least the prices didn't go up. At least not for most of them.

[WYSIWYG]

They can shift them around all they like, until we get plastic infantry at a realistic price point this army will be stuck in a tiny niche.


I tried to tell everyone over a month and a half ago, that their were no new models coming out and your only hope was for certain things to be finecasted (apparently my source confused karamizov being finecasted to mean some SB units would be too), but apparently that fell trough too. Oh well, maybe people will learn to listen from now on. :)

The WD codex was done purely to keep the SB copy rights active.

[Eldrad]

We'll their still expecting $17.50 for 3 sisters of battle, i really want one of these armies, since i was looking into buying them then 1 week later they took off the 10 man (woman) squad, so for now im not making them as army unless i win the lottery

[JMichael]

We'll their still expecting $17.50 for 3 sisters of battle, i really want one of these armies, since i was looking into buying them then 1 week later they took off the 10 man (woman) squad, so for now im not making them as army unless i win the lottery

That comes to $5.83/sister which isn't too bad imho. But I have stopped buying sisters till the plastics come out. I want to field a horde Sister list, but regardless of price, I want more variety in the look.

The 5pack Space Marine is $5/marine (granted the 10man Marine is the best deal).

What really blows me away is $14 for a heavy weapon. Even more expensive than a seraphim. But I guess also more metal.

[Lockark]

Well. Atleast now you don't get a bunch of uesless storm Bolters everytime you buy a pack of SoB. To bad your still paying $20 CAD for 3 SoB.

=/

[Eldrad]

Also, did anyone else notice on the GW page announcing the new sisters codex theres a picture that looks like there might be finecast sisters of battle? (shows what appears to be a fincast sister with a melta and that one model with the large vox caster), i would say their primed but the saint is primed white and they look like the finecast color and all the other models are that space wolves grey color, anyone else agree/ disagree with this speculation?
(thats the picture from GW, if thats ok, if not let me know)
http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1920918a_Blog090811_8_XL.jpg

[Kawauso]

Disgusting.
I know their WD codex is, supposedly, just some sort of stop-gap measure, but I really think everyone in the world would have been happier just waiting until SoB got a new codex like DE.

This just feels like an insult to everyone who plays 40k - even non-Sister players.

Also, WYSIWYG...they didn't need to make a new codex to 'keep' the copyright on Sisters. They already have it, and any trademark/etc. they want to keep up to date can be done by paying legal fees (which they have to do anyway). You don't need to release content to own the rights to it. Not that any reasons they could have for the current SoB treatment make much sense to me, but...

[Lane]

This could possibly be the most expensive army next to an Eldar Ghost army.

Sister Superior $12.25
Sister w. Simulacrum $13.25
Pack of 3 sisters $17.25
pack of 3 sisters $17.25
Sister w/ special $9.90
Sister w/ Heavy $14.00

Total for 10 models $83.90

[Lancel]

Also, did anyone else notice on the GW page announcing the new sisters codex theres a picture that looks like there might be finecast sisters of battle? (shows what appears to be a fincast sister with a melta and that one model with the large vox caster), i would say their primed but the saint is primed white and they look like the finecast color and all the other models are that space wolves grey color, anyone else agree/ disagree with this speculation?
(thats the picture from GW, if thats ok, if not let me know)
http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1920918a_Blog090811_8_XL.jpg

It does look slightly suspect, but I think they're just primed. The white roughly matches the lower Sisters, and the Hospitaler is actually already partially painted in black. It could have been he just decided to give Celestine another coat of white to make the Living Saint whiter. I would expect Finecast to be a shade darker.


This could possibly be the most expensive army next to an Eldar Ghost army.

Sister Superior $12.25
Sister w. Simulacrum $13.25
Pack of 3 sisters $17.25
pack of 3 sisters $17.25
Sister w/ special $9.90
Sister w/ Heavy $14.00

Total for 10 models $83.90

Yeah, sadly nothing new there. These are the prices they were before.

[Necron_Lord]

Nice, character prices for individual models.

That's what we Necron players have had to deal with. At elites, we've got pariahs and immortals in blisters of one mini which just cost $1 less than a Necron Lord. Wraiths, Destroyers, Heavy Destroyers and Tomb Spyders come with one model costing $20+. Our vehicle is also priced like a Land Raider. I shudder to think what they'll cost when we get our Finecast minis.

[MaltonNecromancer]

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Sorry 'bout that.

So, as I was saying, I shan't be buying any SoB, and anyone who does, well.

Good luck to you fielding an army of twenty underpowered, ugly, outdated models Mr. Gates. I certainly hope Windows was worth it.

[addamsfamily36]

Im going to try an bring some positive feelings to this thread.

I am by no means a Sisters of battle player, and if i'm honest, even if they got a new codex i doubt they would become ultra popular on a big scale. However, GW not producing these models in finecast, suggests to me that they have enough stock to last the gap until the plastics (which i see no reason why they wouldn;t be coming) be released.

So as a niche army, most people who like SoB already own Sob armies. they can use or not use the white dwarf codex for now, wait save money and get a nice plastic range eventually. I know its been a long time but quite frankly, with dark eldar getting an entire revamp, grey knights going plastic, storm of magic etc etc, I can't see where GW would of fit them in. Not unless they had rushed them and that would only anger fans.

Dark eldar players waited, then waited some more. The new release....GORGEOUS!!!

I struggle everyday i go into a GW store not to buy at least one Dark eldar model.

Im sure Sisters will be the same (maybe not the same scale) but the same lovely model type. So i would see the "Not going finecast" thing as PLUS not a MINUS.

I hope i cheered some SoB fans up with my theory:)

[MaltonNecromancer]

I think, when it gets down to it, i'm just sick to the back teeth of hearing about WHFB. Endless new releases and kits for a game I will never play, and every one of them as fruity as mardi gras. I just want some new 40K kits, and the SoB "codex" got my hopes up, only to give me a bunch of old stuff and yet more garish new fantasy kits that I could not give two tugs about.

More 40K dammit!

The real new SoB codex in a few years should hopefully compensate.

[eldargal]

Necrons have plastic kits though, SoB have the immolator, a hybrid and the standard rhino, everything else is metal.


That's what we Necron players have had to deal with. At elites, we've got pariahs and immortals in blisters of one mini which just cost $1 less than a Necron Lord. Wraiths, Destroyers, Heavy Destroyers and Tomb Spyders come with one model costing $20+. Our vehicle is also priced like a Land Raider. I shudder to think what they'll cost when we get our Finecast minis.

[addamsfamily36]

I think, when it gets down to it, i'm just sick to the back teeth of hearing about WHFB. Endless new releases and kits for a game I will never play, and every one of them as fruity as mardi gras. I just want some new 40K kits, and the SoB "codex" got my hopes up, only to give me a bunch of old stuff and yet more garish new fantasy kits that I could not give two tugs about.

More 40K dammit!

The real new SoB codex in a few years should hopefully compensate.

In GW's defence, they have in recent years provided some pretty major 40k releases (dark eldar overhaul being one).

And compared to 40k, warhammer generally has less supplements. 40k has appocalypse, planetstrike, cities of death, Forgeworld stuff beyond belief.

Warhammer tends to run campaigns, albion, storm of chaos. Storm of magic on the other hand is a combo of both a campaign and an apocalypse version for warhammer players. basically bringing the game in line with 40k, and getting more people interested in it. These things happen in waves. once storm of magic dies down i bet we will see necrons, tau, etc for months on end and 40k will be dominating again (especially if rumours of 6th turn out to be true).

[eldargal]

It isn't really fair to complain about a lack of 40k stuff, we had eight months after 8th edition with no fantasy releases. Obviously if you limit yourself to only one of GWs game systems you are going to be dissapointed by releases at times.

[Unzuul the Lascivious]

It's all been a complete non-event for me. No new models = yawn-o-rama (my fault for flogging my last lot!). And the new rules and characters? So far, meh. A total damp squib. I continue to work on my Daemons and GK instead.
Seriously, I agree that people would have been a LOT happier waiting for a proper release than this half-arsed WD codex deal. I'm not saying lots of work wasn't put in by Cruddace and Ward, just that personally I think it is rubbish. Still, second half end of the month, maybe something will come along to redeem it, such as funky wargear. But so far, rules are poo, especially the Initiative nerf - just no viable combat troops in the army now.

[isotope99]

It isn't really fair to complain about a lack of 40k stuff, we had eight months after 8th edition with no fantasy releases. Obviously if you limit yourself to only one of GWs game systems you are going to be dissapointed by releases at times.

Not judging or disagreeing, here are some numbers

9 months to September 2011:
Fantasy: 6 (Skaven wave 2, Orcs & Goblins army book, Tomb Kings army book, Storm of Magic, Vampires wave 2, Ogre Kingdoms army book)
40K: 3 (BA wave 2, Grey Knights codex, DE wave 2)

Since 8E (excluding quiet December and splitting Daemons)

Fantasy: 9.5 (3 army books, and 2 months for the new edition rulebook and box)

40K: 4.5 (2 army books)

If you just look at army books and exclude the new fantasy edition, it's fairly even (especially if Necrons are next in October).

I'd expect a fairly even split until middle of 2012, when we're expecting 6E 40K, and then for it to flip back to a bias towards 40K.

8 months to Orcs and Goblins:
Fantasy: 4.5 (2 edition releases, High Elf and Skaven wave 2, half of Daemons)
40K: 2.5 (Dark Eldar army book, BA wave 2, half of daemons)

A quiet period all round, dominated by the dramatic DE release.

[eldargal]

Wrong time frame, I'm talking about the eight months after 8th edition, we had no rules until the OnG book in March. Yes there were a lot of models but in the same time we had the WFB/40k Daemons, Dark Eldar, Dark Eldar second wave, BA Stormraven and dreadnought andGrey Knights. That is two new codices and a whole raft of new plastic kits in the same time fantasy got a few waves, IoB and one rulebook. Factor in the fact that 40k already has three expansions to WFBs one I really can't see the logic in saying 40k players are hard done by.

All I'm saying is all in all you can't complain if you pick one of GWs game systems when they release kits for two.

[Asymmetrical Xeno]

Yeah, I know they likely werent going to get any new models - but I still think they should of considering their whole range is metal and the most expensive ever. I was warming to the idea of starting a small sisters army to go with my old-school 2nd ed necrons for sanctuary 101 recons, but with those prices id never be able to afford it sadly - they could of at least done a finecast box of 5-10 sisters or such IMO. IIRC the blood angels did get some metal rereleases at the time of their WD codex.

[eldargal]

What I find inexplicable is the fact that they have plastic Sisters ready to go, several reliable sources reported seeing sprues and box art. Instead we get a model-less WD codex. GW is supposed to be about selling models, one would think they would like to replace a slow selling all metal range with nice new plastic even if the book isn't ready.

[Asymmetrical Xeno]

What I find inexplicable is the fact that they have plastic Sisters ready to go, several reliable sources reported seeing sprues and box art. Instead we get a model-less WD codex. GW is supposed to be about selling models, one would think they would like to replace a slow selling all metal range with nice new plastic even if the book isn't ready.

indeed, it would give a lifting off point for whenever a proper 6th ed book came out which would have the inevitable have focus on "new" units and such.

I had a look at the site and I did the math and a basic sisters squad would cost me £37.90 ! OUUUUCHHHH! no way I could afford to start one! that's nearly twice as much as what every other troop-type in the game costs. I'm not sure I'm the average-person they aim for or even if they are intending this to make people start a new army - but that doesnt make me want to start a new army.

Even if they didnt release new minis, a 5-10 girl box of finecast rereleases would of been hard to resist...my Obsessive compulsive disorder is going crazy at the illogicalness of all this :p

Also, got an email about their release too, this quote made me laugh out loud :
The Sisters of Battle, an elite Sisterhood of warriors, possess a fanatical devotion to the Emperor, and this month, their faith has certainly been rewarded. Not only has part one of the new Sisters of Battle Codex been published in White Dwarf, but they now have their own section on games-workshop.com. It's never been easier to buy the entire range of Sisters of Battle models.

[andrewm9]

I've been saying all along I fail to see the point of releasing this new codex. It won't be selling models unless they redsitribute the models into some boxes and slash prices a bit. No other army has to buy their troops (the basic unit of the army) in blisters. Not one. I don't even think Fantasy has one. Also all 40K codices now but Sisters now have plastic troops. All of them.

A simple FAQ & errata update coudl have made a few necessary changes by remobving certain units, updating point costs, and even a profile or 2.

On another note an anyone think of an army whose special rules don't work in the other player's turn? I just hope the wargear is amazing and cheap.

[flekkzo]

What I find inexplicable is the fact that they have plastic Sisters ready to go, several reliable sources reported seeing sprues and box art. Instead we get a model-less WD codex. GW is supposed to be about selling models, one would think they would like to replace a slow selling all metal range with nice new plastic even if the book isn't ready.

I'd buy a SoB box just to paint. I love the look in general but I don't like metal nor the drag-queen look of the current range.

[Lancel]

What I find inexplicable is the fact that they have plastic Sisters ready to go, several reliable sources reported seeing sprues and box art. Instead we get a model-less WD codex. GW is supposed to be about selling models, one would think they would like to replace a slow selling all metal range with nice new plastic even if the book isn't ready.

I guess they must be waiting for the real codex first. Maybe they need a good release slot open for distribution, or they want to sell off more metal, or the Sisters could even just be waiting for a scheduled production slot to get all the Sisters made to meet expected demand. Either way it's a good sign of fuller codex next year, or at least that they're actually planning on models.

Heck, maybe this WD codex is just an attempt to measure the demand for the Sisters. Really I already have Sisters, but if they came out with plastics I'd buy a few boxes myself and probably use any extra bits to help distinguish the metal Sisters I already have.

[andrewm9]

I guess they must be waiting for the real codex first. Maybe they need a good release slot open for distribution, or they want to sell off more metal, or the Sisters could even just be waiting for a scheduled production slot to get all the Sisters made to meet expected demand. Either way it's a good sign of fuller codex next year, or at least that they're actually planning on models.

Heck, maybe this WD codex is just an attempt to measure the demand for the Sisters. Really I already have Sisters, but if they came out with plastics I'd buy a few boxes myself and probably use any extra bits to help distinguish the metal Sisters I already have.

If they came out in plastic, I'd probably sell my entire current range of the metals. My metal models haven't held up their paintjobs well and they don't do well with drops since the become deformed or suffer from metal fatigue like my poor Seraphim, some of whom can barely stand up straight anymore. (I really hate it when people touch my minis that I don't know and trust). The Exorcist desperately neds a redo since one drop of that cause that organ to shatter into 4 pieces and possibly deforming the metal permanently.

The metals look good but for such an old model, but the new plastics of some armies look loads better. Blood Angels and Dark Eldar I am looking at you.

[Kawauso]

Heck, maybe this WD codex is just an attempt to measure the demand for the Sisters. Really I already have Sisters, but if they came out with plastics I'd buy a few boxes myself and probably use any extra bits to help distinguish the metal Sisters I already have.

I can't see how this WD treatment would help them measure demand, since there are no new models, and all of the existing models are metal and balls expensive. :(

Really I just can't see what they were trying to accomplish, here.

[Lancel]

I can't see how this WD treatment would help them measure demand, since there are no new models, and all of the existing models are metal and balls expensive. :(

Really I just can't see what they were trying to accomplish, here.

Yeah, it's a bit of a long shot, but I considered that perhaps looking at how well the two issues sold and gauging the reaction might be indicative of what demand there is. Prodding the nest so to speak and seeing what people want and how many of them there are. A bit of a wild guess as I really don't know.

[andrewm9]

Yeah, it's a bit of a long shot, but I considered that perhaps looking at how well the two issues sold and gauging the reaction might be indicative of what demand there is. Prodding the nest so to speak and seeing what people want and how many of them there are. A bit of a wild guess as I really don't know.

How are they goign to tell Sisters fans aprat from Vampire Counts fans who actually got more page count than Sisters did.

[Lancel]

How are they goign to tell Sisters fans aprat from Vampire Counts fans who actually got more page count than Sisters did.

Probably business magic based on there being a part two as well and whatever people tell them. GW's article on the issue though seemed more interested in the Vampire Count stuff.

[Valkerie]

It's all been a complete non-event for me. No new models = yawn-o-rama (my fault for flogging my last lot!). And the new rules and characters? So far, meh. A total damp squib. I continue to work on my Daemons and GK instead.
Seriously, I agree that people would have been a LOT happier waiting for a proper release than this half-arsed WD codex deal. I'm not saying lots of work wasn't put in by Cruddace and Ward, just that personally I think it is rubbish. Still, second half end of the month, maybe something will come along to redeem it, such as funky wargear. But so far, rules are poo, especially the Initiative nerf - just no viable combat troops in the army now.

I'm not even sure how much work they actually put in on this. As an example from the WD codex, the Penitent Engine and its Unstoppable Rampage. "Penitent Egines ignore any crew shakn and crew stunned results on the Vehicle Damage Tables." There haven't been multiple damage tables since 4th ed. Basically, they just took the entry for Rampage from the WH codex and added Unstoppable in front of it.

Also, has anyone else noticed that some of their rules are very confusing? As an example, the rule 'Seraphim Pistols.' It reads, Any model in a Seraphim squad that is armed with two pistols can fire both in the Shooting Phase. If they do so, they can fire no other weapon that turn. WTFO? Does that mean that the individual model can have more that two pistols, or does it mean that the rest of the unit can fire no other type of weapons in that turn? If it's the latter, then any flamers or inferno pistols can't be fired. In other words, you can double the shots from your bolt pistols at the expense of firing your more effective weapons. :( Like before, WTFO?

[Kawauso]

Yeah, that does seem pretty sloppy on the part of the Penitent Engine entry.

I don't see the issue with the Seraphim entry, however.
It says any -model- with two pistols can fire both in the shooting phase. If it does, that model can't fire any other weapons.
It doesn't say anything about other models in the unit, or anything at all about restrictions on the type of weapon being fired by other models in the unit.

I think it's a 'just in case' sort of reason for having the clause about not being able to fire other weapons...like if you were somehow able to give a Seraphim model two bolt pistols and an infernus pistol. For example. It could fire two, but not all three.

[addamsfamily36]

I would like to point out one thing regarding the prices of a 10 woman strong troops unit of sisters.

Required:

3 X pack of blisters with 3 models = 9
1 X special weapon sister

Total 10 models

Total price = £ 38.40 (if you take something like a melta) or £40.95 (if you take heavy bolter)

Now as a blood angels player, if i wanted a 10 man Assault marine squad it would cost me............

£41.00

Yes i could buy tactical marines at £23.00 but when talking about choice, i wanted an assault blood angels army so have to pay £40 for my basic troops. Sisters are also elite, (still in metal more expensive material) but also averaging around £40.

so although no new plastics, or finecast is a bit ****, prices are if anything due to the material cost in line with other GW products.

[Kawauso]

It costs about $10 CAD more for a basic 10-Sister squad compared to a basic 10-man BA assault squad.

However, that BA squad is in plastic, so there are a ton of options. Basic Sisters have, I think, 3 poses? I guess this might not be an issue for some people, but everyone I know wants models they can pose/customize/kit out etc. however they like. And that are light and don't deform/break when they get dropped. And don't chip once painted.
It's not so bad when it's a few models in your entire army - everyone has to put up with that. But when it's the whole army?

Additionally, a 10-man assault squad for BA will cost 200 pts. minimum.
A 10-sister squad will cost around 110 pts. minimum. So you'll need almost twice as many models for sisters. When the equivalent number of models costs about ~10% more.

I just used the GW website to block out around 2000-point BA jumpers army. It clocked in at around $570

I tried to do the same with Sisters - first of all, I was stopped because it won't let you order more than 10 of the 3-sister-blister at any one time. The blister which lets you make Sisters, Dominions, Retributors and Celestians. So there's that.
I tries as much as possible to get to 2000 points, or what would reasonably be around there, keeping that 10-only limitation in mind, and when all was said and done the army price was around $1,200.

This is by no means definitive. I didn't actually plan these armies out. But having a fairly good idea of what the units in each army cost, the in-game cost of the two armies should have been roughly the same.

[Brass Scorpion]

It costs about $10 CAD more for a basic 10-Sister squad compared to a basic 10-man BA assault squad.

However, that BA squad is in plastic, so there are a ton of options. Basic Sisters have, I think, 3 poses? I guess this might not be an issue for some people, but everyone I know wants models they can pose/customize/kit out etc. however they like. And that are light and don't deform/break when they get dropped. And don't chip once painted.
It's not so bad when it's a few models in your entire army - everyone has to put up with that. But when it's the whole army?

Additionally, a 10-man assault squad for BA will cost 200 pts. minimum.
A 10-sister squad will cost around 110 pts. minimum. So you'll need almost twice as many models for sisters. When the equivalent number of models costs about ~10% more.

I just used the GW website to block out around 2000-point BA jumpers army. It clocked in at around $570

I tried to do the same with Sisters - first of all, I was stopped because it won't let you order more than 10 of the 3-sister-blister at any one time. The blister which lets you make Sisters, Dominions, Retributors and Celestians. So there's that.
I tries as much as possible to get to 2000 points, or what would reasonably be around there, keeping that 10-only limitation in mind, and when all was said and done the army price was around $1,200.

This is by no means definitive. I didn't actually plan these armies out. But having a fairly good idea of what the units in each army cost, the in-game cost of the two armies should have been roughly the same.That is an excellent, comprehensive list of all the reasons why no one should ever buy the current models for SoB ever again. :D

[eldargal]

A chap on Warseer received the following email which implies the WD codex was just a compatibility update:

So I wrote GW an email asking them how they managed to justify 3 sisters for $18, especially with the release of a recent WD dex. This is the response I got. Thoughts?


Thanks for writing in to us! I'm really sorry that you're upset about
the price of the Sisters of Battle blister packs, but they've been the
same price ($17.25 USD) for over two years now. The price of them
hasn't changed since the new Sisters of Battle article has been
published in White Dwarf.

The Sisters of Battle are the final range of minatures that we have
which is almost completely made from metal. Just about every other army
has a large range of plastic miniatures (at least for core units). The
White Dwarf army list that is being published in White Dwarf has been
written so that existing players can use their army in the Warhammer
40,000 5th edition rules. Their last codex was the Witch Hunters Codex
that was released back in 2004 for the 3rd edition which doesn't handle
as well any more. While the White Dwarf article won't in any way make
up for a full blown codex, it will allow existing players to get by
until that time. When that does happen I'm confident that the Sisters
will get a new range of miniatures, many of which will be in plastic.
In the meantime, we will continue to sell the old metal miniatures.
Unfortunately metal miniatures are more expensive than plastic.

I hope this answers your question and give you a little insight into
what the future may hold for the Sisters. If you'd like to discuss this
issue further then please give me a call at 1-800-394-4263.

Thanks!


Dave Swan
Customer Services Manager
Of course it depends how much the Customer Services Manager knows about releases and whatnot, but you wouldn't think they would say there will be a plastic range at some point if it weren't true, people would wait for the plastics and not spend their money on the metal models.

[addamsfamily36]

It costs about $10 CAD more for a basic 10-Sister squad compared to a basic 10-man BA assault squad.

However, that BA squad is in plastic, so there are a ton of options. Basic Sisters have, I think, 3 poses? I guess this might not be an issue for some people, but everyone I know wants models they can pose/customize/kit out etc. however they like. And that are light and don't deform/break when they get dropped. And don't chip once painted.
It's not so bad when it's a few models in your entire army - everyone has to put up with that. But when it's the whole army?

Additionally, a 10-man assault squad for BA will cost 200 pts. minimum.
A 10-sister squad will cost around 110 pts. minimum. So you'll need almost twice as many models for sisters. When the equivalent number of models costs about ~10% more.

I just used the GW website to block out around 2000-point BA jumpers army. It clocked in at around $570

I tried to do the same with Sisters - first of all, I was stopped because it won't let you order more than 10 of the 3-sister-blister at any one time. The blister which lets you make Sisters, Dominions, Retributors and Celestians. So there's that.
I tries as much as possible to get to 2000 points, or what would reasonably be around there, keeping that 10-only limitation in mind, and when all was said and done the army price was around $1,200.

This is by no means definitive. I didn't actually plan these armies out. But having a fairly good idea of what the units in each army cost, the in-game cost of the two armies should have been roughly the same.


Fair argument, but Straight for straight in the UK the price for a 10 man or woman unit is the same. Points wise they are different, but then you could argue horde armies have to by 3 times as much stuff compared to a marine army for instance.

And that i suppose is my point. Most people who are interested in Sisters already own a sisters army and this White dwarf codex is just to keep them going until they get a new release. If you wanted to start a Sisters army then yes it would be expensive but there are like 8 or 9 other armies to choose from, but if someone really wanted to start a sisters army then its their choice. and their choice to pay the money for it. Just like anyone who wants to do an all wraithguard army for eldar.

And as a blood angels player, Ive had the "white dwarf" treatment before and i can safely say that the end result was amazing. New models and new rules. So if you take that as an example i can only see good things for Sisters in a few years.

[Lancel]

Normally I am a little skeptical about customer service, but from experience I've seen customer service departments drop little hints. They of course can't explicitly say anything that isn't officially and publicly announced, but they can make strong implications. He seems like he was trying to hint at it.

Still, I guess it probably is an obvious guess at this point with it being the only practically all metal army.

[Root]

Thank the Emperor I already own about 100 Sisters and wont need to buy any. I certainly don't love the WD dex... yet. I think it can be pretty decent if the wargear and point costs are well done and it would nice to actually want to use Repentia. Losing the versatility of the old Faith system REALLY hurts, but we'll just have to wait and see what the second half holds.

If there are major point drops, it'll be okay.

[Sister Rosette Soulknyt]

Agreed, i still have over 20 SoB that are still in boxes, not including several Retributors too.
I think with the size of the army i own, i'm fine from buying anything new, except maybe more heavy flamers if they ARE allowed back into Retributor squads again.

Will wait another 2 weeks until the next WD, already had my gripe with a GW redshirt, surprise surprise he loved the codex WD release...big surprise.
We tossled on good and bad points of the fluff, units and Faith. Personally i don't like all of them, or the fact its still only 1d6 per Turn (goes off on Heretically hunting rant over Faith rules)..