BL Path of the Renegade DE cover art

[eldargal]

http://www.blacklibrary.com/Images/BL/blog/2011/07/DEmedium.jpg

I'd hit it. With massed S6 firepower. I like it, not as much as the Path of the Seer cover art, but I still like it.

From here (http://www.blacklibrary.com/Blog/Alien-Ninja-Pirate.html). Any Chambers writing books for BL, looking forward to this.

[MarneusCalgar]

I like it!!!

Seems very agressive...

And good that Andy Chambers is back!!

[DrLove42]

LOL.

Any word on release for this? Or for Path of the Seer for that matter...

[eldargal]

Path of the Seer in september, not sure about Path of the Renegade. Good to see more Xenos themed books though, if only GW proper would take the hint...

[SMC]

Hello new wallpaper.

[Archon]

Very nice artwork. I like especially the fine details like the scratches and dents in his armour. Definitly a book that i will buy - release is March 2012 and author is Andy Chambers!

[fuzzbuket]

why is there a ilyaden symbol on his head? is he a renegade or one of yiriels pirates?!

stunning i love the details (pointy clown shoes) and that he suddenly has made the odd armor color lines make sense :D

-fuzz

[GrenAcid]

Awesomesause!!

@fuzzbuket
Since title is "path of renegate" answer for your question is kinda obvious, but there might be a hook in it;);) Cant wait to reat it.

[L'Etat Cest Moi]

I think this will be the first time I will buy a BL book new. Very excited!

[wittdooley]

I just saw that Chambers wrote the ruleset for the Dust Modern Warfare game from FFG, an extension of their Dust Tactics line. This is a good thing.

[Lane]

I just saw that Chambers wrote the ruleset for the Dust Modern Warfare game from FFG, an extension of their Dust Tactics line. This is a good thing.

Where did you see that?
Is this a proper wargame for the Dust setting (late 40's) or a late 20th century version of Dust.

For those of you who do not remember AC also wrote the Starship Troopers game. The publisher also used the same mechanics for their Battlefield Evolution game which may still be available.

[wittdooley]

From FFG:




Fantasy Flight Games is excited to announce the upcoming release of Dust Warfare, designed by renowned miniatures guru Andy Chambers. Our intent to launch a Dust tabletop miniatures game was announced even before Dust Tactics was released. Now the success of Dust Tactics has paved the way for us to take the next step. Currently in beta, this tactical tabletop miniatures game of alternate 1940s reality World War II combat will demo throughout Gen Con Indy 2011.

The year is 1947, and World War II still rages, fueled by the discovery of alien technology. The world’s superpowers have developed unprecedented weaponry, including lasers, phaser cannons, and massive combat walkers. These war machines stride across the battlefield, protected by their heavy armor, and devastate enemy troops with their fearsome cannons.

Dust Warfare players assume the roles of generals, each commanding a custom-built army of squads, walkers, and heroes. Draw upon Axis might or Allied versatility as you wage ferocious battles for control of the rare ore, VK, needed to fuel the most powerful of the superpowers’ weapons.



I think that more or less answers all of your questions. FWIW, Dust Tactics is a super fun Game.

@EldarGirl-- Sorry for the threadjacking!

[DrLove42]

To be back on topic :P

Just got Path of the Seer. Looking forward to reading it this evening and tomorrow, but will have to wait.

I always skip to the back of the book to see where the last page is, and how much "filler" is at the back of the book. Short section of "Calador" is in the back.

The important thing is that the book says at the end of the actual novel "Discover the Fate of Alaitoc in book 3 of the Eldar series "Path of the Outcast"

Outcast. Not Renegade. And theres an advert for Renegade at the front of the book.

Now this may not suprise some people but it suprsied me. I assumed renegade was the last book of the 3, not the start of a new series. Sort of obvious now i think about it, being different author and all :P

It also has a date for Renegade. March 2012

[eldargal]

Yep, BL said a while back it was Warrior-Seer-Outcast. I did wonder if Renegade was related but it seems it isn't. In fact someone asked if the Renegade in question was the former Incubus in PotW but I'm fairly sure it was stated he wasn't.

Alaitoc seems to be getting a lot of story time lately, between DoWII: Retribution, and this trilogy. Usually it is Biel-Tan or Ulthwe as it was with DoW and DoWII.

Why hasn't my copy arrived? :(

[DrLove42]

Maybe Craftworld choice comes down to writer, and Gav Thorpe just like Alaitoc. Or because they're not as explored as others, hes got a blanker canvas

Also...read about 30 pages of Seer. Didn't think it was possible to dislike Korandaril more than I did in Warrior.

Turns out you can

[eldargal]

Where does the story start in relation to PotW? I assumed around the time Thirianna becomes a Warlock which was around halfway through.

Wish mine would arrive.

[DrLove42]

Where does the story start in relation to PotW?


From the beginning

The Prologue is the assault on the guard house, where in warrior the scorpion Korandril replaces is killed, cept you see it from Thirianna's point of view as a Dire Avenger

The first chapter is her going with Korandaril to greet Aradryan back. It is literally running parallel to Warrior every step of the way, from beginning to (i'm assuming) the end.

So you see everything (his return, Kor's sculptor unveiling) from Thirianna's point of view. And from someone elses point of view, Koranaril is an utter tool

[Farseer Uthiliesh]

That's a great cover.

[eldargal]

So my theory about Thirianna being nice and sensible and Korlandril being a complete twit is looking increasingly accurate?:P




From the beginning

The Prologue is the assault on the guard house, where in warrior the scorpion Korandril replaces is killed, cept you see it from Thirianna's point of view as a Dire Avenger

The first chapter is her going with Korandaril to greet Aradryan back. It is literally running parallel to Warrior every step of the way, from beginning to (i'm assuming) the end.

So you see everything (his return, Kor's sculptor unveiling) from Thirianna's point of view. And from someone elses point of view, Koranaril is an utter tool

[DrLove42]

Oh god yes. I'm enjoyign this much more than warrior, mostly cos Thirianna is a much more likeable, relatable main character.

Which does means I await outcast with some caution...

[eldargal]

Hurray, I just hope Mr Thorpe doesn't go killing her off, either in Seer or Outcast. Few enough fleshed out female Eldar characters without killing them off. In fact with Taldeer officially dead Thirianna is the only female Eldar character given any kind of attention in novel format in recent times.

[Farseer Uthiliesh]

Hurray, I just hope Mr Thorpe doesn't go killing her off, either in Seer or Outcast. Few enough fleshed out female Eldar characters without killing them off. In fact with Taldeer officially dead Thirianna is the only female Eldar character given any kind of attention in novel format in recent times.

Gender shouldn't be the reason for keeping a character alive - no good novelist would do otherwise. I do admit that there's a lack of substantial female characters, but there's also a lack of other groups in the 40k universe that are less represented. I believe story events should happen for narrative purposes than feminist agendas.

[eldargal]

It isn't a feminist agenda, that is absurd and the fact your mind went there so quickly betrays your own biases more than any bias on my part.
Eldar are an equal gender society, they have no distinctions between sexes and yet we have had one female SC with a tiny piece of fluff in 3rd edition, a female Phoenix Lord and only one female Eldar that got any kind attention in GW writing and that was Taldeer who has since been killed off. The issue isn't with females being killed, the issue is with there being no major female Eldar characters in the fluff despite the gender equality of their society.

Just to elaborate some more.

I don't want Thirianna to die because she is the only female Eldar character to get any kind of attention recently, she is a good, interesting character and it would be a shame. PotW was also widely criticised for killing of Korlandril, even if the little twit deserved it, and it would be a same for the hallmark of the onl Eldar themed booked Black Library have produced to have as their notable feature the death of the protagonist. I hope she survives Path of the Outcast because she is interesting, and would possibly make a good choice for a female SC in a future Eldar codex. In a world where attention to Eldar is rare, and attention to one full half of the Eldar race is even rarer, I think it is a shame to kill off such an interesting female character.

[Farseer Uthiliesh]

Promoting equal gender representation in a fictional setting does read feministic. But I apologise that I didn't use an emoticon to suggest an ironic tone in my comment. I disagree that females are too under-represented in the background, what with the latest novel, consistent female eldar characters in the RTS, banshees (yes, they are open to males, but we don't see that).

"I don't want Thirianna to die because she is the only female Eldar character to get any kind of attention recently, she is a good, interesting character and it would be a shame"

Fair enough, and I have felt the same about many characters myself. But if the story would be improved with a character death, go for it.

[eldargal]

It isn't just 'equal gender distribution' though, it is just a desire for the Eldar literature, such as it is, to reflect their society more equally. I'm just asking for one female Eldar character, a damned fine character at that, to survive the trilogy so there is one* prominent female Eldar out there in contrast to Eldrad Ulthran, Yriel and the five male Phoenix Lords. We had Taldeer, albeit fleshed out in those awful DoW novels, but Retribution retconned them and had her dying on whatever world it was. Kronus? We had Elarique Swiftblade in the Medusa V campaign but instead of keeping her has a high profile Eldar character they killed her off at the end of the campaign as well.


*Obviously there is Jain Zar, but she has had all of one cameo appearance in a BL novel in a series that is no longer considered particularly canonical (Inquisition War). Maugan Ra, Karandras, Baharroth and Fuegan have all been given more attention by GW/BL than her.

[GrenAcid]

For me it souds just like "I wanna her to live cuz I like her" well I wanna her dead cuz I dont, and they can have 15 female eldar characters and only one male in next dex I dont care. Maybe after PoS I willstart to like her, but tbh I liked Kor and I dond mind see himm killed cuz it was nice twist and for me fit perfectly in.

I asume that this un-balanced proportion might be cause by un-balanced male/female ratio in our hobby. Im Against It. I want more female characters so I can have cool wallpapers to stare at.:D

[eldargal]

PotS validates everything I've said about Thirianna.:p Plus Korlandril didn't die, his identity was subsumed into a gestalt entity which was in turn subsumed into a singular entity. We don't actually know where 'Korlandril/Morianith (sp)' is, perhaps in a suit of scorpion armour waiting to be re-activated as an Exarch. All speculation though.