Sister announce in WD

[Melissia]

has anyone pointed our the irony on the lack of faith revolving around the army that's big schtick is faith overcoming terrors and situations where logic says all hope is lost?

I have faith in Sisters, I just don't have faith in GW. It's like asking a Sister of Battle to have faith in the Mechanicus' machine god, except I wouldn't want to insult the AdMech that way.

[Necron2.0]

I'm actually praying that this gives me a reason to pick up some sisters, finecast or no. My Tejasian guardsmen could use a good moral example to keep them from engaging in 'just ain't right' pursuits.

Sorry. The Sisters won't be able to keep your guardsmen from deflowering the livestock. Allies have been done away with. :)

[Fomorian]

Just another thing came into my mind:

What else instead of new sister would be released next month? There is nothing in qeue, the storm of magic stuff is just released and i don't think that there will be a second wave in the next month?
So what else is there to get a release, ... LotR, Fantasy?

A month without new miniatures is really incredible, isn't it?

Just my 2 cents to this.


* i hope really that there will be new minis for the sisters next month and it would be very nice to see them in plastic and not finecast.

[adamkula]

yeah better to have an adjusment then a re hash rushed

[George Labour]

I have faith in Sisters, I just don't have faith in GW. It's like asking a Sister of Battle to have faith in the Mechanicus' machine god, except I wouldn't want to insult the AdMech that way.

But after seeing the omnissiah's avatar blown up for the 80th time that year you need some inspiration. And nothing inspires angry redneck techgguarding dinosaur ranchers like angry women with melta guns reminding you to go forward.

Works better than commisars it does.

[Lancel]

Just another thing came into my mind:

What else instead of new sister would be released next month? There is nothing in qeue, the storm of magic stuff is just released and i don't think that there will be a second wave in the next month?
So what else is there to get a release, ... LotR, Fantasy?

A month without new miniatures is really incredible, isn't it?

Just my 2 cents to this.


* i hope really that there will be new minis for the sisters next month and it would be very nice to see them in plastic and not finecast.

There is a slight possibility that they'll skip a release given Storm of Magic happened this month, but it seems unlikely that they'd have nothing. A Sisters release is a strong possibility given the complete lack of anything else suggested, but there's nothing to suggest what the release would include. It's also about the only time Sisters anything is coming out this year, with the rumored Special September, Ogre October, and Necron November. That just leaves maybe Adepta August, but the leaning bet might be a big Finecast wave that happens to include several Sisters units.

[eldargal]

I still can't imagine they won't release the plastics in August/September. They had mould made, several sources have seen sprues, the new rules are coming out. Release the damned things and they can start making their money back sooner rather than later.

[Lancel]

I still can't imagine they won't release the plastics in August/September. They had mould made, several sources have seen sprues, the new rules are coming out. Release the damned things and they can start making their money back sooner rather than later.

YES! DO IT, GW! Even if it's just the Battle Sisters/Seraphim, it would please so many. Heck, it would please me, I could have greater variety in the troops. I guess I could see them doing it really, plastic troops is just what the Sisters need to sell (and honestly the rules/fluff has never been a problem for the Sisters, it's pretty much always been "Well, I would like to start a Sisters army, but not if they're all metal"), I just feel overly cynical about this for some reason.

[Melissia]

Release the damned things and they can start making their money back sooner rather than later.

But then they won't have anything to release when the real codex comes out instead of the cheap worthless filler codex that they spent five minutes on.

[Lancel]

But then they won't have anything to release when the real codex comes out instead of the cheap worthless filler codex that they spent five minutes on.

It all depends on how much they make new in the full print codex. We have rumors the Repressor is being made into plastic, but also rumors that it isn't in the WD codex. That could be at least one model they can release with the full codex. Though wiith the rumor being plastic Sister box good for all Battle Sisters and Seraphim and the way the army list currently is that's basically good for almost every unit in the arsenal (Battle Sister, Dominion, Seraphim, Celestian, and at least a fair portion of Retributors, which is the vast majority of all infantry in the army). Still, the army is so ridiculously metal that I doubt they would want to do it all in one wave, since anything they don't do in plastic they'll want to move to Finecast. And that's pretty much the only hope I have for anything good besides Finecast re-release, which I really don't need.

[Lockark]

In all honesty it would make sence to release plastic SoB with the WD book. It will help get more people into the army, and then they still have plenty of modles to convert into plastics for future releases.


But then they won't have anything to release when the real codex comes out instead of the cheap worthless filler codex that they spent five minutes on.

Even thow it probly will not happen.... Wouldn't it be funny if it turns out this WAS a full-new codex, that just so happens to be free/printed in a white dwarf?

XD

[Lancel]

Even thow it probly will not happen.... Wouldn't it be funny if it turns out this WAS a full-new codex, that just so happens to be free/printed in a white dwarf?

XD

Honestly, I'd feel like I just got trolled by the entire Internet if that happened.

[Melissia]

I still have my doubts. Maybe a few plastics, but they're gonna want to save money for the big codex release instead of something which isn't available to put on the shelves alongside the other real codices.
IEven thow it probly will not happen.... Wouldn't it be funny if it turns out this WAS a full-new codex, that just so happens to be free/printed in a white dwarf?

XDHm. That would be rather amusing. But a bit contrary to GW's traditional style of "we must rip sisters players off as much as possible".

[Lockark]

I still have my doubts. Maybe a few plastics, but they're gonna want to save money for the big codex release instead of something which isn't available to put on the shelves alongside the other real codices.Hm. That would be rather amusing.


But a bit contrary to GW's traditional style of "we must rip sisters players off as much as possible".

Well. They still have the Exorcist, Repressor, Repentia, Seraphim, and Penitent Engine that would be ideal for getting plastic kits. Kits that new fans brought into collecting the army with the WD will clamor for plastic-crack goodness.

I very much doubt sisters will get any "new" models with this release, as it's the norm for WD codex's for quite a few years now. (I.E. I will slap the 1st guy who says GW recasting the metal range into finecast is new.) But at the same time I don't think new modles are outside of the realm of possibilities, so I'm not going to scream that the sky is falling until once it's officially confirmed. That way I don't have to eat my words if it turns out I'm wrong.
=P

[Melissia]

Cynicism hasn't failed me yet :D

[Gir]

I still have my doubts. Maybe a few plastics, but they're gonna want to save money for the big codex release instead of something which isn't available to put on the shelves alongside the other real codices.

I hate it how white dwarves always seem to fall through shelves when I put them on there :(

[HsojVvad]

I can't rememeber, the first PDF Sisters issue, what will that contain? Rules, fluff or specs, and what will the 2nd issue contain?

[Lancel]

I've heard the first is going to be fluff and unit description entries, the second contains the rules and army list. Something like that basically, fluff first, then rules.

[Melissia]

My bet: both are still sharing space with WFB and LotR, so they don't have to focus the entire mag on an army they don't seem to like anyway.

[Lockark]

I've heard the first is going to be fluff and unit description entries, the second contains the rules and army list. Something like that basically, fluff first, then rules.

My understanding is it will be oraganized like the current codexs. So the 1st part is fluff + specail rules, wargear, ect.

The 2nd part will be the army list/point costs.

[eldargal]

Yes first part is background and bestiary, second is army list and whatnot.

[HsojVvad]

Why is it called bestiary? Isn't that a Fantasy terminology? I don't ever recall 40K having a bestiary.

[wittdooley]

My guess would be that the Sisters will now have limited access to ***GASP*** beasts! I'd guess they'll be hunting dogs or something similar. Perhaps Melissia can expand upon that idea, as I can't recall the Sisters using hounds or anything in Faith & Fire.

[andrewm9]

Why is it called bestiary? Isn't that a Fantasy terminology? I don't ever recall 40K having a bestiary.

They have used it before and are using it now. Check out this page with the blood angels codex description:

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?prodId=prod680010a

They use to describe just about every codex on the website as a matter of fact.

[Melissia]

My guess would be that the Sisters will now have limited access to ***GASP*** beasts! I'd guess they'll be hunting dogs or something similar. Perhaps Melissia can expand upon that idea, as I can't recall the Sisters using hounds or anything in Faith & Fire.

Or perhaps it's just a dumb idea that sprung off on a tangent.

[MadCowCrazy]

Beasts in a Sisters army? The only beast I could think of would be cyber mastiffs but aren't those part of the Arbites?

[wittdooley]

Yeah, well, the Space Wolves never had Thunderwolf Cav before, either :)

I think it would actually be kinda cool if the Sisters had packs of hounds they used on world to track pyskers and heretics.

[Sister Rosette Soulknyt]

I think personnally that any form of dogs are as about wasteful in a new codex for the Sisters as meat shields of Frateris Militia. Give us some real units that make us as useful as other 5th ed codex's.

[JxKxR]

I could see the Sisters getting beast in the form of some robotic panthers. Then since they are robots they could take all sorts of crazy war gear, maybe give them stealth and poison attacks.

[Sister Rosette Soulknyt]

Robotic panters?? Seriously how does that in any way fit in with the Ecclesiarchy?
Poison attacks too....where not playing cartoon Tau here.

[wittdooley]

Perhaps robotic panthers don't, but IMO, hunting dogs do. The sisters are bred to hunt down heretics. To me, hunting dogs seem to fit.

[DrLove42]

Wow. Sarcasm really gets lost on the internet doesn't it? Least I hope who ever started this "ZOMG Sisters got robot attack dogs that shoot teh lasers and burp promethium...and...and...can fly! And have a re-rollable 2++ against men cos they're programmed to be evil!" was being sarcastic and not just ignorant of what the word meant....

And jsut for the record;



Bestiary-

a moralizing medieval collection of descriptions (and often illustrations) of real and mythical animals


Thats the section where theres a picture of the unit, a little fluff above it, and then its rules in expanded form, but no information on points

[wittdooley]

It's the part on animals that is getting to me with this whole 'bestiary' concept. Someone else pointed it out that they're referring to parts of the other Codecies on the GW as bestiaries as well, and it just doesn't follow for me. I mean, the root word here is "beast...."

[HsojVvad]

Thanks guys for the comments on why GW used the explanation of Beastiary. I never knew they used it before. It seems I am not the only one either. :P

[Lockark]

In all honesty I was about to explain what Dr.Love said, that it's a term GW often uses for the unit fluff/special rule section. But then after I saw people over over-analyzing the use of the term "'bestiary", and coming to wild conclusions was just WAY to entertaining to interrupt.

Also just to throw out thier....
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440270a&prodId=prod1550002

This 144-page Warhammer 40,000 Codex contains all the rules you'll need to field a a Space Marine army, as well as detailed background information, bestiary, accompanying artwork and 'Eavy metal show case.


Last I checked the C:SM don't have any sort of beasts in their army list.
=U

[wittdooley]

I don't think it's an over-analysis; it's merely GW *******izing the word to fit their needs. From my background in literature and writing, a bestiary contains beasts! Animals!

I didn't know that they referred to the fluff sections as such, particularly since they don't actually refer to them as that in the Codecies.

C'est la vie. I was sorta excited about hunting dogs, though.:(

[Melissia]

From my background in literature and writing, a bestiary contains beasts! Animals!That's your problem.

I'm glad there's likely to be no beasts. I loathe building freakshow armies.

[Lancel]

That's your problem.

I'm glad there's likely to be no beasts. I loathe building freakshow armies.

I agree. Heck, I don't even have Arco-Flaggelants in my Sisters army for just that reason.


I could see the Sisters getting beast in the form of some robotic panthers. Then since they are robots they could take all sorts of crazy war gear, maybe give them stealth and poison attacks.

Seriously, where did you come up with robot panthers with poison claws? Left field?

[JxKxR]

Seriously, where did you come up with robot panthers with poison claws? Left field?

I was "under the influence" and just watched Tranformers 2... so yeah. Just trying to think up a way they could throw beast into the sister codex.

[Brass Scorpion]

Bestiary, how apropos for SoB. The darkness of the 40K human Imperium is well expressed in the fanatical, combo of self-mutilated and involuntarily mutilated, creepy, oppressive freaks that make up an SoB army.

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/thumb/e/e4/Codex_Witchhunters_FCover.jpg/220px-Codex_Witchhunters_FCover.jpg

[Lancel]

Bestiary, how apropos for SoB. The darkness of the 40K human Imperium is well expressed in the fanatical, combo of self-mutilated and involuntarily mutilated, creepy, oppressive freaks that make up an SoB army.

Hey. Hey. Flaming is our schtick, so give that back.

In other news, interestingly there are still rumors going around that this WD codex wasn't even planned, but a result of a Necron delay. Salt as usual, but the claim is a full release was scheduled for the first half of next year and may still be scheduled that way. It also mentions not to expect much with this initial release, as most of the models will be saved for the real release next year. Ruleswise the WD dex is supposedly based on what we'll see in the future dex (which apparently has rules but they are currently in play testing), but trimmed down in the areas of new units. Current release expects Finecast releases of things that the Grey Knights and Sisters share in common (Death Cults, Arco-Flagellants, etc.) and maybe some of the Sisters models that aren't getting made plastic (Canoness and so forth).

More salt. All I know is that I still want Phosphor Grenades dammit.

[eldargal]

Well I've heard there is a proper codex planned for release within twelve months so it is not that unbelievable. Hell they reprinted the July WD with the SoB back page after a couple of people within GW saw the issue with no mention of SoB so it was a sudden change.