C.of.N.finity
06-10-2011, 03:26 PM
The wording of the rule in question:
The chosen unit is removed from the tabletop and immediatly placed anywhere within 6" of the librarian using the deep strike rules.
I don't see why everyone thinks you have to scatter when using 'The Summoning'. Scattering is used when you deep strike to determine where the models will be placed, however summoning already declares where the model is to be placed which means scattering isn't neccesary. I read it as those that were summoned acted as if they had... 'deeply struck' so counted as moving, couldn't assualt, etc. and that "using the rules for deep strike" just meant how the models were formed up around each other - all the other nuances that the deep strike rules have. In short, the placing of The Summoning supercedes the scatter, then the models follow the rules for deep strike.
Conversly, if they wanted units to scatter while using The Summoning, they just would have said "the chosen unit can be immediatly removed from the tabletop and deep strike within 6" of the librarian".
Also, units being chosen by The Summoning can't actually deep strike becuase they were never placed into reserve. This is important becuase if the "using the Deep Strike rules" would apply to their placement and they would scatter, there would be no way to place them back into reserve given a 5-6 result on the mishap chart.
I know this counts for nothing, but I would hope this would have been RAI as quite a few things in the GK army can deep strike which has it's own possabilities for mishap but when you factor this in, if you did have to scatter, it would set a scale for mishaps that even the Orks would find tragic.
The chosen unit is removed from the tabletop and immediatly placed anywhere within 6" of the librarian using the deep strike rules.
I don't see why everyone thinks you have to scatter when using 'The Summoning'. Scattering is used when you deep strike to determine where the models will be placed, however summoning already declares where the model is to be placed which means scattering isn't neccesary. I read it as those that were summoned acted as if they had... 'deeply struck' so counted as moving, couldn't assualt, etc. and that "using the rules for deep strike" just meant how the models were formed up around each other - all the other nuances that the deep strike rules have. In short, the placing of The Summoning supercedes the scatter, then the models follow the rules for deep strike.
Conversly, if they wanted units to scatter while using The Summoning, they just would have said "the chosen unit can be immediatly removed from the tabletop and deep strike within 6" of the librarian".
Also, units being chosen by The Summoning can't actually deep strike becuase they were never placed into reserve. This is important becuase if the "using the Deep Strike rules" would apply to their placement and they would scatter, there would be no way to place them back into reserve given a 5-6 result on the mishap chart.
I know this counts for nothing, but I would hope this would have been RAI as quite a few things in the GK army can deep strike which has it's own possabilities for mishap but when you factor this in, if you did have to scatter, it would set a scale for mishaps that even the Orks would find tragic.