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quinn
05-16-2011, 05:51 PM
Just got the price spreadsheet effective May 28th.

https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?pli=1&key=tIytonRUpm6fRkxpIjqcDzQ#gid=0

Read it and weep!

Drunkencorgimaster
05-16-2011, 06:02 PM
Before I read it, let me guess...the prices went up?

wittdooley
05-16-2011, 06:55 PM
Just got the price spreadsheet effective May 28th.

https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?pli=1&key=tIytonRUpm6fRkxpIjqcDzQ#gid=0

Read it and weep!

I must be one of the few people that it really doesn't bother. It'd be great if it were lower, but no one is forcing me to buy it. If I want it, I'll pay the extra marginal cost.

lobster-overlord
05-16-2011, 07:29 PM
WOW! The paints didn't go up. What a shock!

Seriously, no surprises there at all, except the 8th ed army books. Blood Angels, Dark Eldar and Tomb Kings are all indicators of what was to come (The higher battle forces and the $66 large vehicle price point).

I honestly expected the TK and ORcs books to be the new price.

Bigred
05-16-2011, 08:17 PM
Headed to the frontpage in 3,2,1...

(also moving to 40k news and rumors)

newtoncain
05-16-2011, 08:20 PM
Plastic Crack dealers always raise thier price.:mad:

Ebay here I come for all.:(

Necron_Lord
05-16-2011, 08:39 PM
What about the units which didn't appear on the spreadsheet?

The metal (or former metal minis) didn't appear for Necrons or Dark Eldar.

Dark Eldar missing from list - Archon, Succubus, Lelith Hesperax, Urien Rakarth, Beastmaster units, Incubi, Mandrakes, Harlies

Necrons missing from list - Necron Lord, C'tan, Pariahs, Immortals, Flayed Ones, Wraiths, Tomb Spyders, Heavy Destroyers.

What gives?

Clanrats only went up $2 and the other Skaven stuff I can still get didn't change. Wheeuw!

DarkLink
05-16-2011, 08:41 PM
Customer-addicts who don't understand GW's business expenses alway complain, then buy anyways

Commissar Lewis
05-16-2011, 10:35 PM
Didn't seem like any of the Guard stuff went up, so I'm good.

DadExtraordinaire
05-17-2011, 01:19 AM
Didn't seem like any of the Guard stuff went up, so I'm good.
yes they did download the spreadsheet

Farseer Uthiliesh
05-17-2011, 02:20 AM
Customer-addicts who don't understand GW's business expenses alway complain, then buy anyways

Then maybe you could kindly explain why it's so expensive in Australia. :)

isotope99
05-17-2011, 03:19 AM
If you look at the whole list, the 20%+ rises (in 40k) are as follows;


Dark Angels infantry upgrade 25% - You get 5 guys so this always used to be good value but a painful increase
All the old battleforces - They haven't had a price rise in a few years, but I suspect that this may be to help combat internet resellers who are breaking down the boxes
SM scout bike 25% - I can't imagine this is a big seller right now and this isn't going to help
Eldar falcon 20% - To bring it in line with the fire prism but I'd rather convert one of those as you get so much more in the kit
IG sentinel 25% - I mostly have just bought these for the bits selection that they have (online it is from now on then)
tyranid warriors 20% - To get them closer to the ravener brood but again you get so much more in the new kit.
Crashed Aquila 21% - I didn't even realise you could still buy this
40k basing kit 24% - Already an indulgence, I can't see these flying off the shelves


Could be worse.

What I think will really bite are the circa 17% rises on lots of the basic troops kits (dark eldar, IG infantry etc. where the battleforces (even at their increased prices) will help soften this)

MarneusCalgar
05-17-2011, 03:36 AM
So we have:

- The forbiding to Maelstrom to sell outside UK;

- The new resin kits, more expensive than metal ones;

- The new price increase;

Just in 2 days... Well, it could be worse, but still in times of global economic crisis... I donīt think this is the most appropiated measure to take by GW...

Lane
05-17-2011, 03:40 AM
If you look at the whole list, the 20%+ rises (in 40k) are as follows;

Dark Angels infantry upgrade 25% - You get 5 guys so this always used to be good value but a painful increase

What I think will really bite are the circa 17% rises on lots of the basic troops kits (dark eldar, IG infantry etc. where the battleforces (even at their increased prices) will help soften this)

Remember the DA chapter upgrade set was two sprues (10 men) for $20 less than a year ago. That makes it a 65% increase in a year.

IG plastic troopers were 20 minis for $35 about 3 years ago. This latest increase makes 60% in 3 years for (what should be) a horde army, glad I already have the minis for 10+ squads and 150 + total IG minis.

Makes me glad I've been hoarding minis for years.

Docmani
05-17-2011, 06:11 AM
We've had a minimum of 10% price increases every year for quite a while now. It'll keep happening until people stop buying. I know my rate of purchasing has slowed in recent years.

Unfortunately, most people do the same. They know most gamers have a budget, but if you spend $500 this year on 20 boxes, and send $500 next year on 15 boxes, thats a win as far as a business is concerned....

Its the beaten wife syndrome. At some point, you have to stop going back to the abuser...

oldschoolgameroO
05-17-2011, 07:09 AM
So I notice on the spread sheed only US and Canadian increases, any have one for Great Britian Pound and the Euro?

Defenestratus
05-17-2011, 07:39 AM
I always find it laughable when people complain about Games Workshop pricing.

This still is a very economically reasonable hobby - that allows you to scale your expenses at your own pace.

My other "hobby" (which, I guess I can't really call a hobby anymore since its turned into a semi-professional endeavor) which is sailboat racing makes GW hobby costs look like pocket change.

Prior to Easter Weekend, I spent $4500 on new sails for the boat (have to buy a new set about once a year, sometimes I can get away with upgrading them piece-meal) and about $2000 for new bottoms on the hulls of the boat. The there was a regatta up in Georgia that I had to travel to.

Entry Fee: $150
Gas: $400
Food: $100
Beer: $100
Miscellaneous expenses: $50

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_W-OLykJh4lc/Tc6sOa9vwRI/AAAAAAAAPjI/U3UG_w1R9pY/s400/Fullscreen%20capture%205142011%20120717%20PM.jpg


So for one weekend worth of fun and awesomeness, I could have bought myself either a phantom titan, or a decent 1500-2000 pt army.

daboarder
05-17-2011, 07:47 AM
I always find it laughable when people complain about Games Workshop pricing.

This still is a very economically reasonable hobby - that allows you to scale your expenses at your own pace.

My other "hobby" (which, I guess I can't really call a hobby anymore since its turned into a semi-professional endeavor) which is sailboat racing makes GW hobby costs look like pocket change.

Prior to Easter Weekend, I spent $4500 on new sails for the boat (have to buy a new set about once a year, sometimes I can get away with upgrading them piece-meal) and about $2000 for new bottoms on the hulls of the boat. The there was a regatta up in Georgia that I had to travel to.



See as a farr 40 sailor I know what you mean. However sailing is an expensive SPORT not a hobby, as such expected pricing is far different. Let me counter your argument with this for the price of a new 1500 pt army from maelstrom I can get a new snowboard, add Australian pricing to that and I can throw in the rest of the ski trip as well.

edit: its interesting to note that the tone of complaining this time is very different, there is far less whinning and more pure hate in many posts.

wittdooley
05-17-2011, 07:54 AM
You know, the more I think about it, I love this. We can price out all the undesireables! This could be a huge boon to the general cleanliness of hobby shops!

Someone start an email campaign to WotC and see if they can make packs of M:tG $10 a piece. I think we're on to something here.

daboarder
05-17-2011, 08:10 AM
edit: you know what its just not worth it whittdooley have fun but please shut up

FTE-Charge!!!
05-17-2011, 08:18 AM
Ive lived through numerous price hikes and I still continue to buy from GW. The interesting change in my buying habits, though, is that I now buy large, expensive kits from online retailers at significant discount. Saving a few bucks here and there doesnt mean much to me on smaller kits, so I support my local hobby shop with my business (seeing as I play there). But I would be a very silly consumer if I didnt see the value in saving nearly $20 on a Soul Grinder.

The interesting thing we will have to wait for is if GW will over extend the value proposition with its products in the near future. Basically- will GW finally hit the price range that the majority of their customers will not pay their prices and shop elsewhere. I have thought about starting other games (not stopping 40k mind you) but I am limited by hobby shops and hobbyists in my area that play different games in any significant number.

lattd
05-17-2011, 08:34 AM
Put it this way i do archery as well and for less than a 2000 point army i could buy a bow, arrows, a target and target stand as well as arm guard, my current kit set up is Ģ400 but includes a dozen arrows a bow that will last me a while, limbs that will last me atleast another year or two, arm guard, chest guard a carry case an arrow tube and all the kit required to set up a bow and kit to repair it.

Basically that would be an army glue paints paint brushes clippers/knife modelling equipment undercoat. A lot more for my money in archery which is a shame as i love warhammer but i just brought a box of Grey knights for Ģ18 with 18% discount thats the same as food for a week at uni.

Diagnosis Ninja
05-17-2011, 09:22 AM
Anyone have the price list in pounds sterling? I think this is the breaking point for me like.

A price increase takes it a fair leap over Ģ2 a model, and I used to joke that I'd stop when it reached that price. Even with online discount from Wayland and others, it's getting beyond a joke.

GrenAcid
05-17-2011, 10:22 AM
I belive its poor level of education in economy class those guys where on ... or they high on crack and their brains melted.


Prior to Easter Weekend, I spent $4500 on new sails for the boat (have to buy a new set about once a year, sometimes I can get away with upgrading them piece-meal) and about $2000 for new bottoms on the hulls of the boat. The there was a regatta up in Georgia that I had to travel to.

Mate, try sails that are not made of paper. Oh and yes I know what Im talking about cuz on my wall is trophy for winning regatta.
How about buing from Poland? its 3:1 for dollar here....just sayin.

Wildeybeast
05-17-2011, 11:43 AM
Well, it could be worse, but still in times of global economic crisis... I donīt think this is the most appropiated measure to take by GW...

Surely that is exactly why GW HAS increased prices. They aren't running a charity and their shareholders demand that they keep a healthy profit margin.

lattd
05-17-2011, 12:44 PM
Surely that is exactly why GW HAS increased prices. They aren't running a charity and their shareholders demand that they keep a healthy profit margin.

Increasing prices during a recovery is a shot in the foot, they are a niche luxury good if they lowered prices they should see increase in sales which would see real growth rather than an inflated bubble of growth.

MarneusCalgar
05-17-2011, 01:15 PM
Increasing prices during a recovery is a shot in the foot, they are a niche luxury good if they lowered prices they should see increase in sales which would see real growth rather than an inflated bubble of growth.

Thatīs the point I wanted to say... It should be better to diminish prices... And more people would buy you the minis DIRECTLY and not in web stores or FLGS or even one person would buy you more than one kit... Than to increase them and let more people to play with other sellersīs miniatures for your game or clone them or so...

Defenestratus
05-17-2011, 01:27 PM
I belive its poor level of education in economy class those guys where on ... or they high on crack and their brains melted.



Mate, try sails that are not made of paper. Oh and yes I know what Im talking about cuz on my wall is trophy for winning regatta.
How about buing from Poland? its 3:1 for dollar here....just sayin.

Mate, try showing up to a GW tournament with non-GW models.

The same thing would happen as what what happen to me if I tried to sail in my one-design class with polish sails.

Pentex- mylar sails are good quality but with the abuse they take over my 500 mile races, they tend to get tired. I do resell the old sails at decent rate which is why I don't complain too much about the steep price.

Skragger
05-17-2011, 02:04 PM
Maybe someone can help me with this. Due to certain significant others being raging nerdophobes, I've been out of the hobby industry for the last few years. Making a comback in the last few months. Are these price increases something that's being seen more frequently across the industry?

Someone mentioned this was the third price increase in the last little while for GW, is this happening with other minis companies like PP?

And what about further into the hobby market? Are we seeing price bumps for things like trading card games (i.e. Magic?), or pen/paper? (i.e Dungeons and Dragons?).

I've seen that prices are higher than when I stopped with the hobbies, but are we seeing constant increases? or just one every few years for the other sectors of hobbydom?

Defenestratus
05-17-2011, 02:09 PM
btw, check out GW's facebook page. Every story's comments is FULL of people *****ing and moaning about the price hikes.

https://www.facebook.com/gamesworkshopofficial?sk=wall

lattd
05-17-2011, 02:13 PM
Maybe someone can help me with this. Due to certain significant others being raging nerdophobes, I've been out of the hobby industry for the last few years. Making a comback in the last few months. Are these price increases something that's being seen more frequently across the industry?

Someone mentioned this was the third price increase in the last little while for GW, is this happening with other minis companies like PP?

And what about further into the hobby market? Are we seeing price bumps for things like trading card games (i.e. Magic?), or pen/paper? (i.e Dungeons and Dragons?).

I've seen that prices are higher than when I stopped with the hobbies, but are we seeing constant increases? or just one every few years for the other sectors of hobbydom?

All the trading card games i can think of such as pokemon have gone up 1 pount in 12 years.

Its a GW thing mostly

wittdooley
05-17-2011, 03:10 PM
Privateer's Battle Boxes were originally $39.99 and were all metal. They are now $49.99 and are all plastic.

HsojVvad
05-18-2011, 05:54 PM
Wow a 10% increase for the 40K boxset. That is way more than the 2-3% increase for cost of inflation.

What I don't understand is how come Dark Angel codex is getting such a price increase. For a codex that is suppose to be crap, must mean it's still hot and a great sale. You just don't increase prices that don't sell.

wittdooley
05-18-2011, 06:11 PM
Wow a 10% increase for the 40K boxset. That is way more than the 2-3% increase for cost of inflation.

What I don't understand is how come Dark Angel codex is getting such a price increase. For a codex that is suppose to be crap, must mean it's still hot and a great sale. You just don't increase prices that don't sell.

Doh! Yes, Vlad, you do, to bring all the products in line with one another.

Necron2.0
05-18-2011, 07:23 PM
Which means it will stay in GW's warehouse indefinitely as gamers download it for free from their favorite torrents.

wittdooley
05-18-2011, 08:22 PM
Which means it will stay in GW's warehouse indefinitely as gamers download it for free from their favorite torrents.



:D

DarkSphere
05-19-2011, 07:42 AM
So I notice on the spread sheed only US and Canadian increases, any have one for Great Britian Pound and the Euro?

The UK one is up on our homepage:

http://www.darksphere.co.uk