Different sort of Coteaz list - thoughts?

[ikew]

I've been trying to work up a Coteaz Grey Knights list with a bunch of bolter-armed henchmen. Perhaps the concept is doomed from the start, but I'd love to make it work. Pretty much everything in the list is flexible except the counts as Valeria and Coteaz HQs. Any and all feedback is appreciated.


Ilben Orr (counts as Valeria)

Ymriel Ozilov (counts as Coteaz)

Techmarine w/ Orbital Strike Relay, 3 skulls

Vindicare

Callidus

Henchmen – Troops (accompany Techmarine)
2 laspistol/ccw warrior acolytes
2 bolter/ccw warrior acolytes
1 mystic

Henchmen – Troops
9 bolter/ccw warrior acolytes
1 laspistol/ccw warrior acolyte w/ melta bombs
1 jokaero
in chimera w/ heavy flamer, multilaser

Henchmen – Troops
9 bolter/ccw warrior acolytes
1 laspistol/ccw warrior acolyte w/ melta bombs
1 jokaero
in chimera w/ heavy flamer, multilaser

Troops – Henchmen
3 bolter/ccw warrior acolytes
3 plasmagun/ccw warrior acolytes
in chimera w/ heavy flamer, multilaser

Henchmen – Troops (in Stormraven)
6 hotshot lasgun/ccw warrior acolytes w/ carapace
3 plasmagun/ccw warrior acolytes w/ carapace
1 laspistol/ccw warrior acolyte w/ carapace, melta bombs

Henchmen – Troops (possibly accompanied by counts as Coteaz)
3 servitors w/ heavy bolters
in razorback w/ assault cannons, psybolt ammo

Stormraven w/ assault cannons, typhoon missile launcher

Dreadnought w/Fist, Multimelta, Storm bolter (in Stormraven)

Dreadnought w/ 2 TL autocannons, psybolt ammo

[DarkLink]

You need to put meltaguns in some of the units. Your list has very little AT. And Valeria sucks.

You also have a lot of points tied up in the techmarine and two assassins, even though the techmarine and callidus don't really add anything in particular to your list. You don't have an assault unit to let the techmarine buff and I'm not impressed with orbital strikes, and the callidus isn't really all that great.

[ikew]

Thanks for the feedback. I'm not a big fan of meltaguns - do you think dropping the Callidus and Techmarine for anti-tank dreadnoughts/venerable dreadnoughts would be sufficient? What about just giving meltaguns to the carapace-armoured henchmen instead of plasma?

If I were to drop Valeria, I'd probably use a Xenos Inquisitor w/ rad and stroke grenades, bolt pistol, force weapon, carapace, and psychic communion instead. Thoughts?

[ankhcitizen]

Stay away from Valeria, the Xenos inquisitor with grenades is a popular choice and rightly so, if you're going with jokaeros maybe put them in pairs to maximise their potential, but make sure you don't use more than two in a squad for obvious reasons.
Also think about Death cultists, 4 power weapon attacks on the charge, at initiative 6 if used wisely say with Xenos inquisitor and transported in the stormraven can be fearsome.