Forgeworld #274 Salamander and eldar corsair upgrades

[isotope99]

New forge world releases announced. Nothing major, some power armour salamander pads and some eldar corsair weapons (I like the missile launcher but the others look easy to kitbash with the right bits)


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Hi there,
Our first release this month is the awesome Salamanders Shoulder Pad set, followed closely by the second of our Eldar Corsair Upgrade kits which can now be pre-ordered ahead of its release date. For those of you attending Games Day France, we also have further details on when you’ll need to place your orders by to guarantee that they’ll be ready and waiting for you at the event.

Salamanders Shoulder Pads available now

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/New_Stuff/SALAMANDERS-SPACE-MARINE-SHOULDER-PADS.html

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Images/Product/DefaultFW/xlarge/salamanderssp.jpg

An ancient and honoured First Founding Chapter, the Salamanders are renowned for their stoicism, valour, and unyielding defence of the innocent. Being skilled artisans, each Salamander embellishes his wargear himself with ornate displays of individual heraldry, honorific branding and honour markings such as trophies and purity seals.

The Salamanders Shoulder Pads Set, sculpted by Simon Egan, contains ten individual power armour shoulder pads, each bearing the Salamanders Chapter badge alongside other details specific to the Chapter. They are suitable for use with the full range of metal and plastic Games Workshop Space Marine kits as well as Forge World’s resin Space Marine Armour Sets. This upgrade pack is available to order now for immediate release.

Eldar Corsair Heavy Weapons Set available to pre-order
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/New_Stuff/ELDAR-CORSAIR-HEAVY-WEAPONS.html
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Images/Product/AlternativeFW/large/corsairhw1.jpg

Outcasts from the strict confines of the Craftworlds, Eldar Corsairs live in self-imposed exile. Most are young and adventurous Eldar who will eventually return to their homes older, wiser and tempered by warfare. Some, however, embrace the raider’s life completely and fall further still, becoming ever more bloodthirsty and psychotic, indulging their darkest impulses and eventually seeking out the infamous Dark City.

The Eldar Corsair Heavy Weapons Set is designed for use with the plastic Eldar range. Designed by Will Hayes, this complete resin and plastic kit contains detailed weapons, jump packs and heads that enable Eldar players to convert four plastic Eldar Guardians into Corsairs armed with heavy and special weapons, and can be used with both our currently available Corsair Conversion Set and the wider range of plastic Eldar kits available from Games Workshop. It is available to pre-order now for despatch in the week commencing 23rd May.

[DrLove42]

I like the heavy weapons...kinda makes the squad like DE trueborn...as longas they're BS4 I'll be happy

Looking at them the missile and cannon are obvious, but i'm guessing the other two are a flamer (maybe heavy) and the Fire Dragons Fusion gun

[house_cawdor]

Looks like they stole the design concept of the Salamander shoulder pads from Chapter House Studios, what a douche move

[Morgan Darkstar]

Looks like they stole the design concept of the Salamander shoulder pads from Chapter House Studios, what a douche move

Grrrrrrrrrrr :mad:

i seriously hope you are being sarcastic

[fuzzbuket]

I like the heavy weapons...kinda makes the squad like DE trueborn...as longas they're BS4 I'll be happy

Looking at them the missile and cannon are obvious, but i'm guessing the other two are a flamer (maybe heavy) and the Fire Dragons Fusion gun

im guessing the ruels will be similar to storm guardians

storm guardians can have 2 fusion guns/flamer per 10 guys and yes those are fusion gun,missle,cannon and flamer.

[JMichael]

Really happy to see Shuriken Cannons on troops!
I like the EML too. Not sold on the Corsair look yet, but perhaps when their other units/vehicles come out with IA11 I may change my mind.

[fuzzbuket]

hmm arfter some more thought i have decided three things

1) im not a fan of the corsair heads.. if they were guardians with masks! yes but without the faceplate im not fond of them (aka the only other nonfaceplate eldar is the jetbikes.. shudder)
2) hey we could make some cheap swooping hawks out of theses
3) more swooping hawks.... a edge in battle

LOL SWooping hawks are USELESSS :P

[Sister Rosette Soulknyt]

Have to agree with you here House_Cawdor, i bought a stack of the CHS shoulder parts, LR and Rhino conversion parts and these dragon heads look nearly identical to the ones you find on the LR upgrades.

Sad, guess if you can't beat them steal from them. Put them out of business. Don't know why GW just didn't do this awhile ago. Would have saved them trouble..

Oh GW, why not just hire these people?????

[Morgan Darkstar]

Have to agree with you here House_Cawdor, i bought a stack of the CHS shoulder parts, LR and Rhino conversion parts and these dragon heads look nearly identical to the ones you find on the LR upgrades.

That's strange. i wonder why that is?................. Oh! could it possibly be because chapterhouse stole/copied the salamander design from gw in the first place?


Sad, guess if you can't beat them steal from them.

i know, chapterhouse have lots of experience with that.


Oh GW, why not just hire these people?????

Because they are asshats who dont know the difference between honest creativity and outright plagarism.

[wittdooley]

Looks like they stole the design concept of the Salamander shoulder pads from Chapter House Studios, what a douche move

You of course realize these designs have been on the Salamanders Terminator Shoulders FAAAAAR before Chapterhouse even existed, right?

Right?

[wittdooley]

Oh GW, why not just hire these people?????

Because a lot of their poduct isn't of high enough quality. Simple.

[Gotthammer]

What I'd like is to see sample rules for the Corsairs so I know how they're meant to be assembled. I mean the kit comes with ten of the lasgun things, but the site shows them with shuriken cats too... how many should I put on?

The perils of early adoption ;) at least the heavy weapon kit comes with the packs and heads as well, so you can make them all up and swap in and out.

[Lerra]

Oh criminey, not this again. Save the battle for the courtroom.

The Corsairs look pretty cool but I'm not a fan of the paintjob.

[house_cawdor]

I'm just stating that the paint job and design does not look like Forgeworld quality on those shoulderpads, and while yes GW may had made the Termie one, they still look exactly the same DESIGN as Chapterhouses. They could have done better IMO.

[wittdooley]

I'm just stating that the paint job and design does not look like Forgeworld quality on those shoulderpads, and while yes GW may had made the Termie one, they still look exactly the same DESIGN as Chapterhouses. They could have done better IMO.

This is just going to be a circular argument if you fail to see that the FW Terminator Pads were released first, so therefore, if anything, the Chapterhouse ones are based on those, and these present Salamanders ones are based on their own design.

[Lockark]

This is just going to be a circular argument if you fail to see that the FW Terminator Pads were released first, so therefore, if anything, the Chapterhouse ones are based on those, and these present Salamanders ones are based on their own design.

The Irony of even saying Forge World Ripped off Chapter House is Ridiculous.

Not to mention you also are begged to ask the question of if they have eye sight.

Chapter House's "Dragon or Salamander Icon Shoulder Pad Bit - Tactical"
http://chapterhousestudios.com/webshop/component/virtuemart/?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=3&category_id=7

Forge World's Salamander Shoulder Pads.
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer-40000/Space_Marines/Space_Marine-Infantry-Accessories/SALAMANDERS-SPACE-MARINE-SHOULDER-PADS.html

As with most of Chapter House's pads the Sculpt looks poor, and the Icon is a *******ized approximation of the original.

=U

I have always been alot more interested in their more original stuff. Like that preview of a Fire Brazier you can put on the side of tanks. Wish Chapter House did more original stuff.

[addamsfamily36]

Right before this thread spirals into an argument.

here are Forgeworlds shoulder pads:

the first the terminator ones which have been around for awhile

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer-40000/Space_Marines/Space_Marine-Infantry-Accessories/SALAMANDERS-TERMINATOR-SHOULDER-PADS.html

second the newer but in the same style only painted tactical shoulder pads

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer-40000/Space_Marines/Space_Marine-Infantry-Accessories/SALAMANDERS-SPACE-MARINE-SHOULDER-PADS.html

then there are CHS ones

http://chapterhousestudios.com/webshop/component/virtuemart/?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=3&category_id=7


i see very little similarity. So no GW haven't copied CHS and as someone who is not a fan of CHS and has voiced my opinions before, this is one product they make i think isn't a copy of a GW design either.

however they do make this kit:

http://chapterhousestudios.com/webshop/component/virtuemart/?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=8&category_id=7

which GW haven't copid the Logo from, but the other way round.

see salamanders transfers below:

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/article.jsp?categoryId=&pIndex=4&aId=9600097&multiPageMode=true&start=5

so to some up. GW have definetly not copied CHS on the pads. and if anything the design used on the vehicle kit produced by CHS is only using a blown up version of a salamanders transfer.

Now back on topic, OMG !!! I WANT THAT ELDAR MISSLE LAUNCHER!!

[Skragger]

"Forgeworld! If space marines didn't wear shoulder pads, we'd be out of business!" :D

[house_cawdor]

hmm the CHS one does look a lot different, guess it has been quite a while since I have seen them.


Either way, Forgeworld could have had a better paint job on theirs, that was my whole point. No argument intended.

I can have opinions right?

[Morgan Darkstar]

hmm the CHS one does look a lot different, guess it has been quite a while since I have seen them.


Either way, Forgeworld could have had a better paint job on theirs, that was my whole point. No argument intended.

I can have opinions right?

of course you can, :)

however the chapterhouse vs GW has an ability to turn people into raving loons :eek: "myself included"

now that i have calmed down, i agree that the quality of the salamander shoulder pads is not as high as i would expect from forgeworld. not to keen on the eldar stuff ether.

hope they do better with the Space Wolf stuff.

[wittdooley]

of course you can, :)

however the chapterhouse vs GW has an ability to turn people into raving loons :eek: "myself included"

now that i have calmed down, i agree that the quality of the salamander shoulder pads is not as high as i would expect from forgeworld. not to keen on the eldar stuff ether.

hope they do better with the Space Wolf stuff.

Keep in mind that, for whatever reason, a lot of the FW Studio Paint jobs look mediocre at best. I wasn't at all excited about the Boarding Marine when I saw their paint job. Then I saw the sculpt at Adepticon. So much better.

IMO, it would behoove FW greatly to have the 'eavy Metal team paint all of their models; I don't know, nor can I fathom, why they don't.

[Lockark]

Keep in mind that, for whatever reason, a lot of the FW Studio Paint jobs look mediocre at best. I wasn't at all excited about the Boarding Marine when I saw their paint job. Then I saw the sculpt at Adepticon. So much better.

IMO, it would behoove FW greatly to have the 'eavy Metal team paint all of their models; I don't know, nor can I fathom, why they don't.

Now that I think about it. It's mostly the Imperial Guard stuff that has awesome paint jobs. Like any marine stuff will be good, but not as good as the Guard stuff.

O.o

[wittdooley]

All the tanks look badass. The infantry is always Meh. I think that maybe they just dont' like to paint infantry...

[Kawauso]

They use airbrushes and their weathering powders to go for a really realistic paint job on vehicles.

I don't know that I've ever seen that realism look very good on infantry minis, though. You can't do a whole lot with airbrushing and weathering powder on infantry models...and the techniques are quite different for painting infantry as opposed to vehicles, so I'd imagine they're just a lot less comfortable with infantry painting.

As for 'Eavy Metal...from what I understand they're worked quite hard with really ridiculous deadlines for White Dwarf and all the Codices/Army Books as it is. I don't know that they could spare the manpower to help Forgeworld out, too.

As for those Salamander shoulders though...I have to agree with most people. They look really underwhelming. Hard to tell how much of that is the FW paint job, though.

[addamsfamily36]

its odd how the eldar corsairs are actually really nicely painted. and then the pads are well....

[Wildeybeast]

'Eavy metal don't paint forgeworld's stuff becuase FW is a seperate, self contained company, which is wholly owned by GW. GW juts lets them get on with what they want to, only taking a supervisory role at the top level (i.e. making sure they are staying true to GW fluff and making a profit). That said, I'm pretty sure they work out of the same building so they could get 'eavy metal to do some paint jobs, but then they would have to pay them as sub-contracters and that's going to get messy for everyone involved. Far better for FW just to paint their own stuff if and when they have time, which is why most of the preview models are unpainted on the website. BL works in a similar way, which is why the guys that write the novels don't write the fluff for the codexes/army books (and must be why the fluff sometimes conflicts with the novels!)

[Lane]

What would not surprise me is if GW now used the existence of Salamander Power Armor shoulder pads as an example of how Chapterhouse is making copies of GW product. Even though the design is not the same and GW released their version after the lawsuit was filed.

[Gotthammer]

As an addendum, I got my Heavy Weapons kit today and it comes with the basic Guardian sprue, which the main Corsair kit does not.