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Denzark
04-17-2011, 05:41 AM
Which book has the short story in which Eisenhorn loses his hand on Sameter?

lobster-overlord
04-17-2011, 06:12 AM
The omnibus collection "Eisenhorn" has the three novels and two shorts, thus has that one in it. Don't know it was printed in another book though.

John M.

Whoop!
04-17-2011, 07:57 AM
Lobster has all the info I got. It's a good read too, one of the Black Libraries best IMHO.

Corvus-Master-of-The-4th
04-17-2011, 08:26 AM
Agreed, one of the best books I've read by the Blacklibary

wittdooley
04-17-2011, 09:25 AM
Speaking of mr eisenhorn: someone write some rules that fit him in a GK list for fun games.

chromedog
04-17-2011, 10:59 PM
What stage of his career?

Malleus, before he acquires the skills and knowledge for creating/binding a daemonhost, when he is still a monodominant and yet to become a radical?

Or later, after his slide has started, but it is not yet too late for him to be redeemed.

Or after Hereticus (or indeed, the Ravenor shorts he is also in which are, iirc, after Hereticus)?

wittdooley
04-18-2011, 08:54 AM
I think the stage where he has Cherbael as a daemonhost would be the ideal time. I may read the books again so I can attempt this.

Grailkeeper
04-20-2011, 07:29 PM
He doesn't need rules, He was written at the same time as the large scale inquisitor game came out. He is designed to be a typical inquistor so as players could get ideas for their own campaigns and see in more detail what life is like for an inquisitor.

You can therefore use the rules for a normal inquistor and it would perfectly capture him- want a daemon host use a normal daemon host.

Denzark
04-21-2011, 03:21 AM
You nay-sayer Grailkeeper - Eisenhorn is not just another 25 point Inquisitor - hes a man who with his Cherubael mucker takes on Warlord Titans!

I think this is the man people would like to see recreated.

JamesP
04-22-2011, 04:54 PM
You nay-sayer Grailkeeper - Eisenhorn is not just another 25 point Inquisitor - hes a man who with his Cherubael mucker takes on Warlord Titans!

I think this is the man people would like to see recreated.

You'd need to add a rule for your Titan-killing Cherubael then flying back to fry your soul for summoning him in the first place. Like Get's Hot!, only a lot worse!

cobra6
05-01-2011, 07:37 PM
@ chromedog: technically, he was an Amalathian, not a Monodominant - both Puritans, but different philosophies. I appologize, my inner fluff **** just couldn't let it slide.

The current rules for daemonhosts don't even come close to capturing Cherubael's abilities (like when he nuked that titan, Cruor Vult. Just flew over and annihilated it.) You'd almost be better using a Jokaero as Cherubael - or a whole warband, if your opponent bought off on it! I also don't think guys like Harlon Nayl can be accurately represented by Warrior Acolytes, although that is exactly what they are supposed to be.

chromedog
05-02-2011, 06:30 AM
No problem, my goof - I've loaned my copy of Xenos to a mate (and don't have the omnibus currently either).
It was a wild stab in the dark. :D

Agreed on the powers of the daemonhosts not being a good reflection in the game.
Cherubael always seemed to be more "unbound" than "bound" daemon to me - or perhaps he just had a longer leash.