Incoming: Storm of Magic

[Artein]

In this month's peek of what is to come we take a look at Storm of Magic, the brand-new world-shattering Expansion for Warhammer. Prepare for battles ravaged with powerful magic and a host of fearsome monsters.

Storm of Magic - when the eight winds howl...

The Winds of Magic are tumultuous. Drawn by Morrslieb, they are prone to rise from a strong gale into a howling tempest. And when they do no kingdom or realm is safe.

Monsters awaken from their slumber and are summoned from their lairs at the bidding of sorcerous masters. Armies assemble, ready to defend their borders or seize the opportunity to gain limitless power. It is in these desperate times tenuous pacts between wizards and creatures of darkness are sealed to create alliances never thought possible.

A time of doom and great deeds is at hand. Will you rise to meet the storm?

Announcing the impending arrival of Storm of Magic, the latest and largest Expansion for Warhammer, the Game of Fantasy Battles. Launched in July 2011, Storm of Magic describes what happens when great eldritch maelstroms roil across the lands. Magic becomes far more powerful and there is a whole range of Cataclysm spells to cast, unleashing untold devastation on the enemy. Arcane Fulcrums burst from the ground, not only acting as loci for the swirling energies that pervade a battle fought amidst the Storm of Magic, but changing the way a Warhammer tabletop looks and interacts with your armies. With such things so crucial to your Storm of Magic games a new range of Warhammer scenery and Wizards will soon be released in time for you to wage cataclysmic battles.

Then there are the monsters. When the Winds of Magic blow with such strength, the fell creatures of the world gravitate towards the tempest, slithering from deep tunnels or emerging from mountain lairs.

With the new Expansion allowing you to use so many different creatures there are a whole host of new monstrous plastic kits on their way. Citadel's queen of creatures, Trish Morrison, has spent the last few years in her own lair preparing for the new monsters to be unleashed upon the world and you can see two brief glimpses of what is to come below:

http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1760232a_SoMIncoming_P2Mb1.jpg

http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1760233a_SoMIncoming_P2Mb2.jpg

[eldargal]

Hurray! Top picture look like some kind of big furry critter, bottom one is a large fantasy Jokaero.:rolleyes:

Seriously though, first one look like a dragon a bit so I'm going with the much rumoured DE Dragon.

[Artein]

From Harry

Pretty sure that is a Black Dragon and a Manticor. Both are plastic.

I see this a bit like 'Apocalypse' for Fantasy. Just like 40K Apocalypse was about bringing all your big guns to the table and blowing stuff up this seems to be about bringing all your big gribblys and uber powerful wizards to the table and blowing stuff up ...
... or chomping and ripping stuff up in the case of the big gribblys.

What's not fun about that. :D

[Nikephoros]

So really powerful magic, the thing that people complain most about in Fantasy, is getting an expansion that makes it even more powerful. Good deal.

[eldargal]

Also, big monsters which makes it all ok.


But really, people complain about everything*, if GW took that on board we wouldn't get anything new. I for one always like seeing more, large, pretty kits.



*8th ed is herohammer, hordehammer, magichammer, warmachinehammer, monsterhammer etcetera all at once if you believe the internet fanbase.:rolleyes:


Also, yay, I was right about the first one being a dragon then. *fist bumps herself*

[The Madman]

thanks for posting this, GW site won't log me in for some reason.

wonder if any of the monster to be released will be those of the beastmen, Cygor and Ghorgon could be in on kit and the Jabberslythe in another

[Wishing]

So really powerful magic, the thing that people complain most about in Fantasy, is getting an expansion that makes it even more powerful. Good deal.

Well, not really an expansion but an alternate format of play in which magic is more powerful, if the above is to be believed. Which seems entirely plausible - the recent releases of big plastic monsters for warhammer seems to be an effort to make it more like 40k, which has big plastic vehicles.

Basically, since 40k has a range of alternative formats that don't affect the normal game - cityfight, planetstrike, apocalypse, etc. - it seems likely that this is an alternative format for warhammer, which means that the normal game rules will be totally unaffected by this release.

I suspect the main result of this development will be the same as in 40k, which is that the hobby side of the game will be enriched by having awesome plastic models available that will be popular to buy and paint without any potential to unbalance the standard game since they are only fieldable when both players agree to play an alternate format.

[Wildeybeast]

This looks exciting and fun, though I can't help but question the wisdom of releasing an expansion when, in the year since the release of the new rules, they will have managed to update just 2 army books.

[Lockark]

Hurray! Top picture look like some kind of big furry critter, bottom one is a large fantasy Jokaero.:rolleyes:

Seriously though, first one look like a dragon a bit so I'm going with the much rumoured DE Dragon.


In all honesty it reminds me of the Vampire Count's "Winged Nightmare", sept more furry.

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440102a&prodId=prod1160096

[Gotthammer]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-KChv5QENJRQ/TaLrnTK5GZI/AAAAAAAAAWM/hJIt6YjbqaM/s640/Dee+Snider+Warhammer.png

via 122nd Cadian (http://cadia122.blogspot.com/2011/04/finally-gw-makes-miniature-of-dee.html)

[Lanparth]

Its one kit.

Why?

That "dragon" has feathers/fur, something quite uncommon for dragons imo. It'll end up being the same kit I suspect. Disappointed :(

[eldargal]

If it is a dragon and a combined kit there could be different heads with and withour fur. Regardless I wouldn't get too worried until we actually see the kits.

[spectre113]

If i was to take a stab in the dark, I'd say that the feathered one might be a Coatl (magical monster from the old Thunder Lizards list). Can't think of many other feathered beasties bouncing around the Warhammer world, and its magical abilities make it a good candidate for the new book.

On the other hand, it may be something entirely new. We'll see when it comes out.

[billytwix]

i wonder if there's a labrynth element to the new monsters?

http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/4000000/Movie-Screencaps-labyrinth-4007428-1024-576.jpg

this could be a cool expansion - fingers crossed for empire mage on pegasus / and wood elf unicorn!

[eldargal]

Some new rumours, apparently this chap has been reliable in the past:

Information from a friend with an advance copy of the ruleset:

- Magic Re-adjusted "alot"
- 9th type of magic
-No level 5 wizards - Tomb King only thing
- releases spread out over a few months.

[Wildeybeast]

The releases being spread out would make sense, they are unlikely to do any other big releases in the summer months (despite people still insisting on promoting the summer of flyers rumour) and we won't see an army book/codex until the autumn, so they need somthing to bring the money rolling in. The pattern last summer was new rules to get people wanting to play, then IoB, then new Elves to go with the shiny new IoB models people had bought. Makes sense that there would be a drip feed of linked releases this summer as well.

[Thornblood]

To me, both models look like they are varient heads for the same kit- Im expecting a dragon that can be customized to any of the eight lores of magic- hence the guys that dont use those laws extensively have now got their big kits before summer (Tomb Kings sphinx, Skaven Abomination, Goblin Arachnarok) and what we are seeing is the lore of death dragon and a lore of fire dragon that any uber-wizard of the respective lore can use/ride/tame/hang out with/ get eaten by.

If thats the same kit though I wonder what else will be up for release...?

[eldargal]

A rumour roundup from Warseer:


As there isn't an existing open thread, and given this is the next fantasy release, I thought it prudent to open a thread based upon the expansion and it's corresponding releases, apologies if this is somewhat pre-emptive.

We know from the gw website and the previous thread that we are expecting at least two new monsters, awesomely powerful spells, and new terrain. Given we are now rather close to release, I wonder if now we can discuss fresh rumours pertaining to the nature of these.

Here's a summary of the contents of this thread thus far. When something is confirmed by someone like Hastings, Harry, Frgt10, Bram et al I will turn it bold.

Jim kicked things off telling us

The back page of White Dwark this month confirms SoM for next month.
June WD goes on sale 25th June.
New piece of artwork as well I think...

Poncho160 attached this http://www.warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=111572&d=1306840479 image of the back-cover


CaliforniaGamer wrote
A few months ago some of the bigger GW retail shops had an event where they had "Legendary Formations" things such as having 50+ black orcs in 1 unit gave them some additional ability...etc.
I have never seen that before for WFB, ever.
Can we now assume that was a stealth preview for SoM?


eldargal wrote
I heard there was a new Everqueen model coming with SoM, possibly riding some kind of beastie. I've had another source confirm there is an Everqueen sculpt ready but was unsure if it is going to be released with SOM

Orcboy_Phil wrote (though there is some fear the staffer heard this from on here)
Bucket of salt time, but according to a local blue shirt there are going to be a ton of monsters realeased with this. I heard something on the lines of pretty much one for each army as well as missing beastmen ones (of course these could just be rerelases of existing monsters in finecast rather than total new sculpts). I heard that that resident monster expert (Trish???) had been working on monsters for the last 2 years for this release. Once again it could just be there spec and take it with a large bucket of salt.


Sinzaren wrote
From what I've picked up here and there it is going to be pretty similar in some ways to apocalypse. There will be big monsters which could be used for most armies, there will also be formations i.e. a Nuln cannon battery, Flight of Elven Dragons etc. which get extra bonuses just like Apoc, with extra cost for the formation. I also heard but am not too sure about Wizards being able to group together and cast bigger spells (which will come in the rules) a sort of sorcerers coven casting maga-magic.

shabbadoo wrote
Here is a tidbit I heard, and don't know if it has been posted anywhere yet or not:
GW will be releasing small boxed sets of individual plastic models. The allusion was that these will cover a variety of models(mostly focusing on Lords/Heroes of course), and this may very include releases for Storm of Magic; namely wizards/mages/sorcerers/whatevers. The info is more than a bit vague, but it sounds like the models will be simple enough that all of the pieces for them fit on a single small sprue frame, and as such they will be very similar to the Lords/Heroes in the WFB Starter Set. These may have a few more pieces, and so have a slightly greater degree of detail, range of motion, or even a few options(I can only guess as to this last bit). See the WFB starter set Skaven and High Elf Lords/Heroes for examples of what the minimum will be.
This will be a simple and very efficient way for GW to put quite few plastic Lords/Heroes rather quickly(i.e. they can fit 6-8 of these small sprues on a single large sprue tree and inject them all in one go), and I don't think it would be much of a stretch to assume that they will be doing the same for 40K HQs too.
I guess we'll see if anybody can corroborate this now.

Drakenfels wrote

Evening chaps, I was in a GW store last week.....a place recently promoted to the championship and supposedly "POSH", and i was going to buy myself a Elvish dragon, after talking to the boot-camped black shirt, he gave me a sly wink and said " Why not wait a while, i know if i wanted one, which i do, i might wait and see what is on the horizen"...
with that , he gave me another wink....i just hope he was not making a play for me...anyways, are there any rumours about the release of a plastic dragon, i know with the Fantocalypse realease we might expect a new kit or two, anyone else heard about this ?

Asensur pointed out a rumoured reference to the storm of magic within the FW chaos dwarves list
The chaos dwarfs' sorcerer lord can mount a Lamassu, and the book says to search for Lamassu rules in Storm of Magic specifically.

There are also two teaser images of miniatures on the GW website

Thats your lot for now, I'd expect more news to reveal itself when the june wave of tomb kings goes on sale.

[Wildeybeast]

Lot of interesting rumours there, I'll be interested to see which ones come true. Guess we are now in June, so GW should be giving us something concrete in the next week or two, as pre-orders are normally up at least a couple of weeks in advance.

[eldargal]

Apparently the Storm of Magic black box is arriving in stores next tuesday with pre-orders the day after.

Source anselminus on Warseer.

[addamsfamily36]

eldargal wrote
I heard there was a new Everqueen model coming with SoM, possibly riding some kind of beastie. I've had another source confirm there is an Everqueen sculpt ready but was unsure if it is going to be released with SOM


If a new everqueen mode came out either now with SoM or at a later date i would be the happiest high elf player.

For years i wanted to do a forces of the everqueen list as an attatchment to my regular high elf army. I hope its true

[eldargal]

I'm not even expanding my High Elf army at the moment and I'd still be thrilled.:) It would be nice if they one day re-issue the maiden guard in Finecast too, the metal boxes sell for seventy or more pounds.:( Surprisingly good female models considering their age.

[Wildeybeast]

Sweet! I can hardly wait to see what shiny stuff we get.

[BrokenWing]

Must purchase plastic monsters. Must purchase plastic monsters. Give me a Chaos plastic monster.

[Lord Azaghul]

Must purchase plastic monsters. Must purchase plastic monsters. Give me a Chaos plastic monster.

Well that depends on your flavor of chaos. The shaggoth just got finecasted.

[BrokenWing]

My flavor of Chaos starts with a C and ends with Aos.

[eldargal]

Quite a lot of rumours from Warseer:


2 of the new plastic kits come with lord & sorcerer rider options ;)


If this means a plastic DE Sorceress I'm gonna have a heart attack.

ready the defib someone!! ;)


Oh, now that everybody posts, I might as well spill my guts.. I intended to wait another week, but ah, swell...

Storm of Magic will be a full-colour hardcover book, about half the thikness of the Core Rulebook, and at the price of, well, apoximatly one Leman Russ Battletank.
It's due for release the second saturday of July. Previews start the saturday befor.

There will be a multitude of kits and gimmicks to acompany them.

Plastic Boxed Sets are:

Chaos Lord on Manticore
Dark Elven Lord on Black Dragon

Both Kits are the same price as a similar High Elven Ridden Monster.

The saddle, Rider and (in case of the Dragon) the armour are completly optional.

There is also a Kit labeled
Chimaera
and one labeled
Cockatrice
which are the same price as a 10 man Space Marines Squad.

There are also some Clampack releases:
Chaos Supreme Sorcerer
Supreme Sorcerer of Tzeentch
Vampirecounts Necromancer
Dark Elven High Sorceress

I don't know what these are made of. Since they are clampacked I guessed Finecast, but the price of, ah, well, lets say it in GBP: It's a one-digit-point-something Price lable.
Quiet affordable if it was finecast, but since hasitings said plastic sorceres... well... do the math.

Of course there is a whole bunch of playthings and gimmics aswell, like Vortex Templates (Like the Dark Eldar Wayportal template, only bigger), Dice, Battle Magic Cards (which apearently come in a cool box of sime Lost Arc style... with skulls of course...) and Focus Points (4 different ones).

Which brings us to rules.

Storm of Magic is for any Warhammer Fantasy Battle Army. It supports you with a alternative of Deployment, Magic and Army composition rules.

Game mechanics
While you place terrain, you deploy Magil Focus points. Think of these as landmarks inhibited with strong magics, like towers, magical stairs, Columns of Fire, or what ever. Each army starts with a designated number of Focus points, it depends of the scale of the game. 1 per army per 1000 points is, what I was told, suggested in the book.
You may place 1 Wizard including a mount on top of the Focus point, and one guarding unit within a limited space - enough to place about 30 standard base-sized miniatures, I was told. The rest of your army is deployed as usual.

The game is all about dominating these points, which grant great boni to your wizard while he stands atop of them. The Magic Phase is strongly buffed with 4D6 Power dice. In addition, you determine the ascending wind of magic at the beginning of each magic phase. (It's done randomly by some sort of tool, don't ask me what it is, I don't know, but apperantly it's not a dice.) Army book Lores are associated with Army book rules, for example if the Lore of Light is the Ascendand Lore this turn, High Magic is Ascended aswell (I don't know if High Lore is really associated with Lore of Light - it's simply a example of my understanding of the mechanics).

The Ascended magic gains a +4 bonus on attempts to cast their spells. You cannot change the Ascendend in any way, though it's determined new in every magic phase.

There is also a bunch of new spells which appearently give you the possibility not only to summon Monsters loke the Cockatrice, but also whole units from other armies. I personally didn't by this one. It was a long evening with a LOT of beer.

Take all of this with salt. And enjoy.


Plastic MOUNTED sorceress, the foot one is finecast ;)

A mastercrafterd post good sir, with only to my knowledge 2 exclusions....

1. Arcane fulcrum scenery piece (a ruined floor with a magical vortex - of plastic - swirling upwards which you can place your wizard on top of.

2. The "garden of morr" scenery piece, basically a new fantasy graveyard - although I'm not 100% sure that this won't be held back until the VC wave later in the year.



Originally Posted by CSE View Post
Just to point out one of the new "scenery pieces" is an cool undead graveyard
Ah, no. At least not for the initial wave... Or it's not a designated SoM release. It's not in my books anyway. There is no scenery at all, since I count the focus points as needed. while scenery is optional. There are four different Focus points, though, maybe you meant them. One's a throne, one's a gate, one's a stairway and ones a... magic-thingy-column. They come two for a space marine tac squad.


Originally Posted by Poncho160 View Post
Any confirmation on whether this will be an expansion ala planetstrike or Apocalypse or and actual extension to the rules you can use anytime?
It's like Apocalypse. In many ways.


Originally Posted by Tuatha Dar View Post
Or it could be meant to represent Crone Hellebron, and he mistook the Dragon for the Manticore.


Tuatha
The sets are labeled Chaos Lord on Manticore, and Dark Elf Highborn on Black Dragon. I don't think there are additional riders. It might be possible that the other Sorcerers to be released are compatible with the kits, though.


Originally Posted by Zaonite View Post
Maybe it's a part of the SoM rules that Wizards can be given a mount not listed in their army book?

And I extend my thanks to BramGaunt for the awesome rumours. Now, I need to put a cockatrice on advance order... when I get it, it shall be painted golden yellow...
That is a possibility, but as far as I know, Army books stay untouched. Imagine the confusion you could create with a Slan on a Black Dragon.

[BrokenWing]

When it comes to Fantasy Chaos...I heart GW.

[eldargal]

I'm hoping there is a good plastic box though, though I admit DE and Chaos do need a plastic dragon/manticore. Even so, something for the Empire/High Elves/Bretonnians etc would be nice.

Speaking of which:

Once again, the Bramgaunt minis list is non-exhaustive.


I don't know as a lot of "new releases" are just finecast models.

So there may be some nice good-guy kits yet.

[BrokenWing]

If GW made a plastic Chaos Dragon...I would swim over there and hug the nearest GW manager.

Yes. Swim.

[wittdooley]

That Empire chick on the Dragon has me weak all over. Dammit. And the Landship was going to be my Games Day purchase this year.....

[eldargal]

Get both.;) I like the Landship but I'm not sure I want one yet.

[eldargal]

A little moar:

Also:

/cough Amazons, mounted and foot units, character/uncough.

Edit: /cough Not necessarily with SoM /uncough wheeze.


I got to hear some rumours and here is the run down of the convo:

All the elven races will get some type of buff during SoM since there ancient old and magic masters, the wood elves even more so since all manner of Monster live in there woods, so they will have some experience in controlling them. Lizardmen even thou they are steeped in magic and ancient they won't get much due to the fact they live be the masters plan and anything out of that will get deaded. Cockatricve that has been mentioned will look something like an evil/very angry chocobo. It was also mentioned that SoM is GW foot in the door to release new armies... I don't mean now but in the futher so keep your eyes open for some of the eastern nations getting army books aka Nippon and Araby. Rumours that one of the new massive war engines could be some form of floating castle seen in the Empire bit of the BRB.
Someone also showed me photo's of a Orc Savage shaman riding a carnasour and it will be legal in SoM... if so I want to create an Empire Life wizard contorlling a tree man :D

won't go into details about where I found this, so you can take this with salt if you want :p

[wittdooley]

Yeah, I'd love to get both, but that sounds.....cost prohibitive. I still haven't mustered the courage to buy myself a Titan....

And Araby...Sweet mother of god, don't tease me....

[eldargal]

Oh and my last SoM rumour:

There is a Dwarf Runesmith model to be released with SoM. Probably.

[Chronowraith]

Nice set of rumors for SoM. Thanks Eldargal.

I have to say that I keep waffling on the landship. I want one but it's a rather expensive investment for something I would just convert into a fancy Screaming Bell.

I wish there were some new skaven caster/character kits for SoM. Ahh well, we've been treated pretty nicely since the release of our army book at the end of 2009.

[eldargal]

Picture time, courtesy of being woken up at 3:30 by people who take my rumour-collecting more seriously than I do:
http://www.warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=112218&d=1307752678
http://www.warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=112219&d=1307752678
http://www.warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=112220&d=1307752678
http://www.warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=112221&d=1307752678

Does want it all.

From someone on Warseer, I'm not sure who i'm too tired to check at the moment.

[BrokenWing]

Can I have the models without the whole even more powerful magic thing?

[Chronowraith]

Wow.

The new models look great. The dragon alone makes me wish I hadn't sold off my Dark Elves.

The terrain looks pretty good from what I can see too. I'm loving the eternity stair.

The new Chaso sorcerer looks.. bizarre. He looks like a clown on stilts.

Nice to see the rider of the manticore comes with several options though. The sorcerer riding the beast looks wicked.

[eldargal]

Models are models, I'll be buying them all even though I had no plans to expand my Dark Elves or play SoM with them. I might even get the Chaos Manticore to convert to Dark Elves.

There wil be more kits coming out for SoM over the next six months, too. I wonder if they will have any army deal things like they did for Apocalypse.

The eternal stair is my favourite piece of terrain as well. I like that you get two terrain pieces per pack as well, hopefully for aorund £20.

Anyone else notice how lovely the new Finecast Dark Eld sorceress on foot looks compared to the old Witch Elves?

[BrokenWing]

Witch elves is ugly.

[isotope99]

Anyone else notice how lovely the new Finecast Dark Eld sorceress on foot looks compared to the old Witch Elves?

Or the washed up heroine addict look that was their last attempt at a sorceress model.

Also, I hope it's just the angle but the dragon rider looks like a midget stripper.

[Emperorsmercy]

Anyone else thinking abounding that pack of tin circles as more webway portals? Nice bit of variety....

[eldargal]

Ha, I lol'd. But yes I think it is the angle.


Or the washed up heroine addict look that was their last attempt at a sorceress model.

Also, I hope it's just the angle but the dragon rider looks like a midget stripper.

[billytwix]

eternity stair combo - magic dice - vortexes! - possibly the cards. i wish they produced a nice box for existing magic cards players may have = any suggestions bols??? - dark elf dragon

thats what i'm looking to buy from this

Where's the empire / wood elves?
looks like we have to wait till further on down the road

[eldargal]

The spell card box description says it includes more space for extra cards, so hopefully enough for your armies lores.

[Chronowraith]

Anyone else notice how lovely the new Finecast Dark Eld sorceress on foot looks compared to the old Witch Elves?

Yup. Very nice indeed. A shame she's on the fold of the magazine so the detail is more difficult to make out though.

I might have to pick her up just to paint her.

[eldargal]

There is a better picture of her standing on one of the terain pieces on the first picture (scroll to the right).

[Wildeybeast]

The models look great and real, but I've suddenly had some doubt about the WD pages. Look at the boxes containing the relase dates. Now look at your curent copy of WD in the new releases section. Notice the difference? These pictures have no prices on them. I wonder why? Could it be that someone has got hold of photos of the models and mocked up the WD pages? The only other reason I can think of is an editorial change in WD, but why would you not display prices?

[malefice]

Models are models, I'll be buying them all even though I had no plans to expand my Dark Elves or play SoM with them. I might even get the Chaos Manticore to convert to Dark Elves

the manticore and chimera are the one kit so possibly has multiple riders

[Verilance]

The models look great and real, but I've suddenly had some doubt about the WD pages. Look at the boxes containing the relase dates. Now look at your curent copy of WD in the new releases section. Notice the difference? These pictures have no prices on them. I wonder why? Could it be that someone has got hold of photos of the models and mocked up the WD pages? The only other reason I can think of is an editorial change in WD, but why would you not display prices?

it apparently is the north america edition and it does not have prices in the new releases pages

[Paintraina]

Whats the deal with the Pubic Tuft on the chaos manticore beastie?

[Lexington]

Some very nice minis in there (though the Manticore looks...muppety), but I'm getting less excited for SoM overall. The Magic Phase doesn't need ridiculous boosts, and it seems kind of silly to have these Ultra-Powerful Magical Artifacts just sitting around the battlefield. This sort of stuff is the exact opposite of how the low-magic Warhammer World has always worked.

[billytwix]

The spell card box description says it includes more space for extra cards, so hopefully enough for your armies lores.

Im worried the plastic box they come in will only be as robust as the clam packs that the 5 guy units of fine cast are shipped in. aka broken on first drop with a 52 card shuffle.

I do hope there are plenty of lovely lady sorceress / mages coming in the additional releases. Fingers crossed on your side saddle lady coming to market!

[Nosmo75]

Some very nice minis in there (though the Manticore looks...muppety), but I'm getting less excited for SoM overall. The Magic Phase doesn't need ridiculous boosts, and it seems kind of silly to have these Ultra-Powerful Magical Artifacts just sitting around the battlefield. This sort of stuff is the exact opposite of how the low-magic Warhammer World has always worked.

Welcome to the new Warhammer world. ^-^

[Nosmo75]

Soooo... I guess nobody else noticed the all-new blue demon dude in the mega-photo? xS

[Nosmo75]

That Empire chick on the Dragon has me weak all over. Dammit. And the Landship was going to be my Games Day purchase this year.....

*scours the thread* What Empire chick? What Dragon? Teeeeell meeeeeee! *jumps up and down* =P

Or did you mean the Dark Elf Witch Elf?

[Chronowraith]

*scours the thread* What Empire chick? What Dragon? Teeeeell meeeeeee! *jumps up and down* =P

Or did you mean the Dark Elf Witch Elf?

I'm not sure why it was brought up in this thread, but I'd assume it's referencing this thread - here (http://www.lounge.belloflostsouls.net/showthread.php?t=15396)

I'm not sure where anyone would think the Warhammer World was "Low Magic" in the sense of fluff. You are talking about a world with a giant rent in the fabric of reality at the polar areas, a world where daemons appear regularly, a world with several kingdom/empire spanning races created entirely from magic (Skaven, Tomb Kings), and a land of all the other usual items you find in a fantasy setting, mage towers, dragons, elves, faeries, undead, etc.

Thanks Eldargal for telling me to scroll over. Missed the better pic of the new Dark Elf Sorceress. I guess I was just enthralled with the eternity stairs.

I'm actually really excited about SoM. I'm eager to see what they do to make the game feel larger than life and more epic in nature. Obviously the magic is changing but I'd like to hear what else is changing.

[eldargal]

The Cockatrice is Finecast, the sorceress and others are plastic. Yes, plastic:
http://www.warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=112273&d=1307817992

[Wildeybeast]

it apparently is the north america edition and it does not have prices in the new releases pages

Ah thanks for that.

I can't help but notice a distinct lack of Empire wizards amongst these pictures. Where are my wizards for life, shadow and beasts GW? I want them back!

[eldargal]

Hehe yes I want some Empire stuff too, but there will be six months or so of SoM releases apparently (or a few releases over six months, I'm not sure) so I'm sure we will see something. I know Dorfs are getting some love a bit later too(Runesmith and possibly some other things).

Oh, prices are (apparently)

Mount & Monster kits: £31
Regular Monsters: £20.50
Terrain: £20 (for packs of two)
Characters £8.20

[Wildeybeast]

Pretyt much in line with what's currently out there then (no sneaky new release price hikes:D). And I have to say not too bad, I don't mind £30 for a rider and mount. And with them all being plastic and finecast, lots of opportunity to kit bash and make some really funky monsters!

[Chronowraith]

I really dislike the Tzeentch sorcerer. Not my taste. My favorite is still the old one with a bird head.

I do like the new necromancer for Vampire Counts and the Dark Elf sorceress. The other chaos sorcerer lord is meh to me. Still, I'll pick him up.. I need a chaos sorcerer for more generic spells. right now I just have bird man and the short and squat nurgle guy.

[quinn]

I'll definitely be adding the Chaos Sorcerer (tired of converting the Gamesday Figure into various Magic casters) and the Lord/Manticore (although the Manti isn't the most survivable mount in the world) to my WoC army. It's been a long time since we got any new figures to build and paint. I just hope there might be some rules for running a unit of Juggernaut Chosen Cavalry :D

The Dark Elf figures have me thinking about bringing my DEs out of retirement and playing them again...overall this release has me excited to play some games again. I'm a bit burned out on the tournament scene and looking forward to some big battles played just for fun.

[lattd]

I call ball, the picture for the sorceror shows a finecast clam shell but the description says plastic.

[lobster-overlord]

THe plastic sprue is probably sized to fit into the new clamshell. As it says only 9 parts for one, that's easily do-able.

[eldargal]

Which confirms what BramGaunt on Warseer said about plastic characters weeks ago.;)


I call ball, the picture for the sorceror shows a finecast clam shell but the description says plastic.

[lattd]

Surely it would be more cost efficient to have it as one box?

[eldargal]

The theory is each mould produces 6-8 character sprues which are then broken up and boxed individually, making it much more economical to produce. It is almost certainly legitimate though

[wittdooley]

Hehe yes I want some Empire stuff too, but there will be six months or so of SoM releases apparently (or a few releases over six months, I'm not sure) so I'm sure we will see something. I know Dorfs are getting some love a bit later too(Runesmith and possibly some other things).

Oh, prices are (apparently)

Mount & Monster kits: £31
Regular Monsters: £20.50
Terrain: £20 (for packs of two)
Characters £8.20

Have you seen anything on pricing for that new Empire Magestrix?

Also, I'm surprised we haven't seen a gryphon kit. How interesting would it be if they did one that worked for all the gryphon-able armies (HE, Empire, Bretonnia)

[eldargal]

Nope, I suspect we won't know until FW put it up for sale (which is a month or two away apparently). I've budgeted for eighty pounds myself.

IoB had a gryphon in it, its possible they are hoping people will buy it to convert. Or we may see a new griffon yet, we have many more as yet unseen SoM kits to come.

[wittdooley]

Yeah, I converted one myself to make it fit an Empire general from the plastic kit. I had to do some filing, but it was actually a fairly easy conversion.

I can't wait to see the "good guy" kits for SoM.

[Lord Azaghul]

Yeah, I converted one myself to make it fit an Empire general from the plastic kit. I had to do some filing, but it was actually a fairly easy conversion.

I can't wait to see the "good guy" kits for SoM.

Never gonna happen!

One thing gw doesn't go well is make 'good guys'...especially when it comes to magic!

Runesmith could be nice, but you've gotta give me something other then 'new character model ' to get me to play this...and it better be DAMN POWERFUL too, and I mean broken with cheese sause

[theHman]

Great looking terrain. Really ugly, ****ty looking minis.
Couldn't even do a better sculpt on the manticore from 1990. Pathetic.
And that black dragon... it looks... it looks just retarded and another terrible sculpt to add to the list.

[eldargal]

The Manticore I admit is pretty ugly, I'm hoping the Chimera improves with better pictures/different heads. The cockatice is beautiful though and personally I love the black dragon.

[Chronowraith]

The Manticore I admit is pretty ugly, I'm hoping the Chimera improves with better pictures/different heads. The cockatice is beautiful though and personally I love the black dragon.
Agreed. I would pick up the cockatrice kit just to put together and paint. Here's hoping my Skaven will have a way to summon one in SoM.

The Black Dragon I personally like as well, although I understand where people are coming from in terms of the dragon looking... mentally challenged. Then, unlike most other fantasy realms, most dragons in Fantasy aren't potrayed nearly as hyper-intelligent. That goes particularly well for the younger wyrms.


Runesmith could be nice, but you've gotta give me something other then 'new character model ' to get me to play this...and it better be DAMN POWERFUL too, and I mean broken with cheese sause

I am curious to see what dwarves will get. All of the other races supposedly get mighty spells, rituals, and supposedly ways to summon the new beasties portrayed in the plastic kits. Dwarves have no magic so I'm curious what will compel them to pick up this expansion. For that matter, what about Ogres? Blood Magic works very differently to normal magic.

[Lerra]

Hmm, that swirly Dark Elf thing with the Chaos star will make a great Chariot of Tzeentch.

[Chronowraith]

Hmm, that swirly Dark Elf thing with the Chaos star will make a great Chariot of Tzeentch.
Or just a good old Disc of Tzeentch

[Firebird]

That new Necromancer is Hawt! <3

[Thornblood]

I think Ogres are soon to be re-done, so maybe that will sort that out (resin maneaters. Now there is a reason o invent the finecast range). Quite frankly if the re-did the tomb kings magic to be less scrolls and more just like magic, i can imagine the Ogres will get the same treatment. Especially if they want it to fit with this expansion.

Dwarfs however, yes, you have a serious point. Maybe Runesmiths can tame some of the creatures? Or have runes of monster control.

I dont know how you stop the slayers from killing them though.

[Thornblood]

Cockatrice looks amazing.

Black Dragon looks a bit... odd. I think just because Games Workshop does very serpentine dragons, often curled into an S shape and its a bit uncurled. Ill have to decide when i see it in person. I think its phenomenally tall as well.

Manticore looks great above the waist. Not too sure about the legs, but thats nothing that cant be fixed with a bit of repositioning and a big rock to stand on on the base.

The Chimera is hideous. It looks like a really nice, different dragon sculpt with two pretty cool heads shoved on it. But it dosn't work altogether. Which i guess is the point of the creature. I would quite like o see a one-headed chimera. That model could be really nice. Or, maybe it will look like Pete's dragon?

Also, is that a new DE assassin?

And does the eternity stair fit inside witchfate Tor?

[Lord Castellan]

Do indeed wonder where my Dwarves will come out in all of this. perhaps we will get tons of extra dispel dice and so on, and maybe super powered runes? Perhaps an Anvil of Doom thats even better than it already is?

I doubt we'll get a monster, but if we do, maybe a rock golem or something?

I just hope we arent forgotten and that we do indeed get our dispel and runes buffed.

[eldargal]

Dorfs are getting things, ancestor runes were mentioned, and a rune of binding with which to control things like cockatrices (in contrast to other races spells of binding).

[tleilax]

Does anyone know if lizardmens will get something new in SoM?
Will we have to use our powerful Slann priest in a re-release resin model or can we expect a new one? I bet for the first solution but who knows, perhaps we will have a nice surprise for the LM army.

[eldargal]

I've not heard anything specific about Lizardmen, but SoM isn't just a one off thing, there are more releases planned over the next 6 months. So there is a good chane they will get something. HBut I only know High Elves, Dwarves and Empire have things in the pipeline for sure, and I don't know what they are (beyond a runesmith for Dwarves and wizards in general).

[wittdooley]

I'd like to see a Warrior Priest on a big, bad Rhinocerors-type creature. I don't know why, but something about a Warrior Priest spouting hate-filled litany whilst riding an organic-tank with a giant skewer into battle makes me happy....

[Albavar]

The cockatrice looks quite a bit better than my friend's old "death chicken" I have sorely missed monsters. They used to be a whole army selection section unto themselved. 0-25% monsters...

[Chronowraith]

I have that model somewhere. I actually like the death chicken. Although the new model looks really spiffy for its own reasons.

I wonder if they will eventually come out with elementals... I actually liked the old citadel elementals back in the day. Yes, I'm aware I can purchase the old elementals.. but I'd like new sculpts and to have them be summonable in the game (at least in Storm of Magic)

[Mr.Pickelz]

Dwarfs get stuff? yay! :D:D

[bobrunnicles]

Got to admit until a few minutes ago I was fairly blah about the whole Storm Of Magic thing, but the pics that Eldargal posted just blew me away - I want some of those models SO BAD right now lol. I see 40K going on the back burner and a large scale switchover to Fantasy for me in the near future :)

I'm torn about the DE dragon though - I have a fairly large DE army already, and I still have the model for Beastlord Rakarth on Bracchus sitting primed but unpainted in the cabinet. I kinda feel like I owe it to the model to do that one first...

[Lord Azaghul]

not to sound all trollish - but storms of magic was really the last thing I wanted for whfb. I was really hoping for a seige expansion - that would've got me playing again :p - oh well

[bobrunnicles]

not to sound all trollish - but storms of magic was really the last thing I wanted for whfb. I was really hoping for a seige expansion - that would've got me playing again :p - oh well

Not trollish at all imho - a Warhammer Siege expansion would have had me excited long before the pretty pics came out :)

[eldargal]

I like the sound of this:


Also, someone had asked specific beasts/monsters that the W.D brought up, it didn't bring up anything specific, it was just saying (paraphrasing here) that:

[We will be releasing new SoM monsters every month with a preview in the W.D, as we begin to fill the 70 monster reptoire.] And then went on with the Chimera 'customization' diagram as I had menitoned with my first post.

From Trains Got Robbed on Warseer.

[Wildeybeast]

Did I read that right? They are releasing 70 monsters !?

[eldargal]

I don't think they will release all of them, some are already available and we don't know the criteria (are giant bats, bears or whatever monsters?), but we do know there will be plenty of more kits to come.:)

[gcsmith]

This storm of magic with the tag line 'yes you can' seems to be both awesome and So overwhelmingly cheesey beyond belief.

I love the different models, such as the cockatrice. But I fear that either every game will become Storm of Magic meaning while I play HE which i have for a while now, ill be unstopabble, but people will probably never play me.
Or it will become like apocalypse and barely played at all.

Hopefully a balance will strike where its playable, but normal games are played more often but not all the time.

What gets me right roiled up tho is the local store manager getting a wyvren for his Bretonians. Now I get the idea of fun. but if he does that my brets may have to get redone and go on a hunt for his dukes head for teaming up with the Greenskin skum.

Does he not read that Brets are meant to be HONOURABLE and accept no help from outside sources. /sigh what people will do to win nowadays.

Dnt get me wrong but I play 40k to win, fantasy to actually have themes because I just see themes easier to do in fantasy.

[eldargal]

Dun dun dun:
http://www.games-workshop.com/stormofmagic

Looks like there is going to be a campaign as well as an expansion.

[gcsmith]

Looks like the council of hoeth, cough teclis cough. are marching to war. :p

[eldargal]

Oh I forgot, apparently there will be 45 (not 70) monsters available by the end of all this, not all of which will be new kits.

[gcsmith]

I heard there are 40 scrolls which include like monsters to bind to your wizard as well as other stuff, and dwarfs are getting a host of new runes and anti magic stuff due to them not having wizards

[eldargal]

45 scrolls, yep. Including things like Unicorns (http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?prodId=prod1140267). Note the description.

[gcsmith]

Nice find there eldargirl a perfect unit for bret players :P

[BrokenWing]

Curse you Eldargirl. Curse you!!!!!!

A campaign? A CAMPAIGN?! Why would you do this to me?! WHY?! Why are you forcing me to buy an expansion I'm not a huge fan of because I have some sort of weird fetish for campaigns?!!!! WHY?!

You work for GW don't you?! You and your cronies have some sort of mind reading device that discovered you can make me blow crazy money on an expansion I'm luke warm on by throwing out the word "campaign." My weakness has been found! :eek:

Must find squash court 7 and hide deeper in Tardis. Must escape campaign!

[Chronowraith]

Some examples of old kits they are bringing back are the Great Taurus and the Lammasu (which are finecast and appear in the White Dwarf). Also, they are bringing back some old school favorites like the Fimir (most notably of Heroquest fame).

Interesting indeed.

Also, if nobody has already pointed this out yet, most of the monsters can purchase upgrades to further customize them.

[Brass Scorpion]

Storm Of Magic items are up for pre-order NOW:

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/armySubUnitCats.jsp?catId=cat440004a&rootCatGameStyle=wh

[eldargal]

I love the Chimera, didn't see that coming. Love the Dark Elf Sorceress, Cockatrice, Terrain, the Book and Black Dragon as well. Still don't like the manticore much.

[gcsmith]

Its a shame there are no 'good' monsters for armies like Brets and HE etc apart form existing dragons. I mean I know that they can be use by all, but they just seem themed for chaos.

[isotope99]

I love the Chimera, didn't see that coming. Love the Dark Elf Sorceress, Cockatrice, Terrain, the Book and Black Dragon as well. Still don't like the manticore much.

Chimera - Wouldn't say I love it but I'm liking it a lot more in that new colour scheme. The lack of poseability and options is a bit disappointing from a plastic kit (but grateful it's plastic at all). If I got one I would convert it to be on all fours rather than in that rearing manticore pose and i'd like the tail to be more serpentine.

Sorceress looks great - much better than the previous incarnation and all plastic means I'll be getting at least one for my dark eldar.

Cockatrice - needs some conversion near the bottom. Tempted to lose the feet entirely but I like the design of the head and wings. Can see this being very popular for tzeentch models (no idea why they've made it limited edition finecast but the chimera permanent plastic, maybe a hint at a future army book including the chimera?)

Terrain - Like the staircase, except for a few of the panels which looked tacked on and the swirling vortex (getting this as an objective for my 40k armies). Of course they are in separate boxes with the other more cartoony options :mad:

Black dragon - Like the optional armour and the head, still mixed on the pose.

Manticore - I still don't feel that they've nailed the manticore's look, but I do like the riders.

Vortex templates - ordered a set of these for my dark eldar as I want two webway portals and an exploding void mine.

Happy to see the prices generally on the right side of affordable (by GW standards)

What will be most interesting about this trelease on a wider view is these mini-plastic kits (wizards and chimera) that don't have the number of options of the big kits (dragon/manticore) but are mostly priced accordingly. Is this special for SoM or a signpost for the future? :confused:

[The Madman]

anyone got any idea what Razumov's Tomb is?

its got a background text but it doesn't actually say what it is. is it a book, cards or what?

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440004a&prodId=prod1270004a

[eldargal]

Razumovs Tomb is a little novel or some such, like the Island of Blood novel.

[eldargal]

Am I imagining things, or is that a female Dreadlord torso on the left side of the sprue:
http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1860128a_99120212005_DreadDragonSprue02_873x627.j pg

[isotope99]

I think there are 2 male armour torso options on the left and 2 female go-go dancer torso options on the right.

The breasts you see are I think shoulder blades on the rear of the torso.

This picture shows the dragon's pose in a more flattering light and it's starting to grow on me

http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1850308a_99120212005_DreadDragon05_873x627.jpg

[Wildeybeast]

Its a shame there are no 'good' monsters for armies like Brets and HE etc apart form existing dragons. I mean I know that they can be use by all, but they just seem themed for chaos.

Griffons, Hippogryphs, Pegasi, Eagles, Unicorns are all 'good'. I know there are already exisitng models but hopefully we'll get some plastic/finecast versions. Plus they can make up some funky new 'dawn of time' monsters that are 'good'.

I'm loving all the newmodels and scenery, know I just want to know how the game plays. Is it going to be really cheesy and overpowered or fun and balanced? Only time will tell.

[gcsmith]

I guess Storm of magic is a good excuse to buy 7 dragons and have a proper dragon prince squad :P

[Chronowraith]

GW posted a few samples of the new spells and monsters on their blog. Just reposting here

http://i645.photobucket.com/albums/uu171/Chronowraith/Demotivational/StormofMagicMonsters_L.jpg
http://i645.photobucket.com/albums/uu171/Chronowraith/Demotivational/StormofMagicLores_L.jpg

Original Post here (http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/blogPost.jsp?aId=17100003a&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheGamesWorkshopBlogEN+%28Wha t%27s+New+Today+%40+Games+Workshop%29)

[eldargal]

They also increased the cot of the Hydra to 220 points, it would be nice of they erratas the army book to use that price as well.

I think you may be right about it being the back of the torso not a female torso, but I'm still not completely sure.

[quinn]

Based on what I've seen of the rules (which is not the whole thing yet), I'm thinking that Galrauch and Daemon Princes of Tzeentch will be showing up in my army list..2+ WS Magic Using Nasties...should be a real pain for opponents to deal with. Please tell me these will be legal so I can take them off the shelf and actually play a game with them :D

[Necron2.0]

I don't play fantasy, but the Dark Elf sorceress is a legitimately gorgeous piece. I definitely need to get me a couple.

[Chronowraith]

Based on what I've seen of the rules (which is not the whole thing yet), I'm thinking that Galrauch and Daemon Princes of Tzeentch will be showing up in my army list..2+ WS Magic Using Nasties...should be a real pain for opponents to deal with. Please tell me these will be legal so I can take them off the shelf and actually play a game with them :D
While I am uncertain if you can use larger based wizards to claim fulcrums there are ways to bump casters off of fulcrums while ignoring saves. I don't know the mechanics behind this though but it happened once in the battle report in the white dwarf.

I'd like to know too if monstrous wizards can be used to claim fulcrums as I have a Verminlord who's looking for some tabletop action.

@Necron - I agree... easily one of the nicest fantasy minis they've put out recently. Hell, I ordered one and I don't even play Dark Elves (yet, they are on the list).

[kingscag]

While I am uncertain if you can use larger based wizards to claim fulcrums there are ways to bump casters off of fulcrums while ignoring saves. I don't know the mechanics behind this though but it happened once in the battle report in the white dwarf.

I'd like to know too if monstrous wizards can be used to claim fulcrums as I have a Verminlord who's looking for some tabletop action..


"Dragon Mages are susceptible to sustained enemy archery, but really come into their own in Storm of Magic games. Indeed, the 3+ ward save provided by the Arcane Fulcrum's defensive enchantments will make a Dragon Mage incredibly difficult to shift from his lofty perch. The additional casting dice generated each time a Dragon Mage unleashes a spell will also make 20+ to cast spells such as Fireball Barrage and Withering Heat a relative cinch to unleash."


that is a direct quote from GW storm of magic highelf section

so my guess is yes larger based wizards and wizards on monstrous mounts CAN take fulcrums only wonder now is if spellcasters on warmachines can (screaming bell, plague furnace, war altars etc)

link for that page is http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/article.jsp?catId=&categoryId=cat640007a&section=&pIndex=6&aId=17000009a&start=7&multiPageMode=true

[isotope99]

These re-released monsters have been discussed and are confirmed in the latest WD (all finecast available July 23)

Lammasu £21.50
Bull Taurus £21.50
Dark Emissary £9.50
Truthsayer £9.50
Fenbeast £15.50
Wild cold one £10 (although at that price I'd rather GS convert the plastic ones if I wanted more than 1)

I have fond memories of the lammasu (one of my first ever fantasy figures) and may get one even if it has aged quite a bit (decent new paint job though)

http://www.lounge.belloflostsouls.net/photopost/data/568/DSC02513.JPG

[eldargal]

I think it has aged quite well really, not a bad price for those either, and that is a pretty looking cold one.

[Lord Azaghul]

One of the best/most fun games I ever played (7th ed tourny) was my dwarves vs the chaos dwarves, he had that nice old lammasu, and tarus....kinda given me a soft spot for that model!

[BrokenWing]

I really like that Cold One model. I'll take 16.

[pgarfunkle]

Yeah the Cold One is a nice model, just wondering how well it would work as a mount for a Scar Vet for my Lizards. Will have to take a closer look once they start appearing in stores me thinks.

[Wildeybeast]

I really like that Cold One model. I'll take 16.

16 Finecast Cold Ones - £160
16 Saurus Cold One Cavalry - £37

Just saying...

[BrokenWing]

But I already own 22 or 23 Saurus Cav =).

In all honestly I probably wouldn't get 16 so much as like...5 or 10.

If I were going to spend that much money I'd just restart my Iyanden Army.

[Wildeybeast]

Fair enough dude, it's your money.:) I just don't see why GW has released this (nice though it is) when you can buy some plastic ones much cheaper and just not stick the riders on.

[BrokenWing]

I think it's because the other ones all have saddles on them.

[Wildeybeast]

True. I guess there will be a number people who would rather pay extra than do a bit of converting with a knife and geen stuff. Personally I'd rather get 8 plastic cold ones for the price of 2 finecast ones and take the hassle of converting!

[wittdooley]

There's a really good chance I'm wrong, but isn't it just a 'blank' space? Aren't the saddles build into the riders?

[BrokenWing]

It depends on which cold ones you're talking about. I don't remember on the Saruus ones, but the Dark Elf Cold Ones have really big saddles on their backs.

[Lord Azaghul]

It depends on which cold ones you're talking about. I don't remember on the Saruus ones, but the Dark Elf Cold Ones have really big saddles on their backs.

I think the saurus warrior models didn't have a saddle (plastic box of 8)...its been a quite since I built those...

[BrokenWing]

Been a long time for me as well. Some of mine are still the old battle cows. (Moooo)

[pgarfunkle]

Yep the Lizardmen Cold Ones have a blank space on their back as the saddles are built into the riders as wittdooly suggested.

Also they are a bit "blockier" than the Dark Elf Cold Ones which I think the fine cast model is based on.