The "I Want an Army!" Challenge

[eagleboy7259]

Rules –
Imagine that you are given $300 USD to build a new army. You have the task of selecting the different kits and blisters that you are going to use in the creation of your new army. To play you must write out an itemized list of the models you would purchase and submit an army list. You don’t have to worry about tax, just use the pre-tax sales price. There is a $5 leeway on the budget, in case you write out a list and find yourself just a bit over. If you happen not to live in America but still wish to play simply use the US Games Workshop to find the costs so you don’t have to do any of that cost conversion stuff.

-You don’t have to worry about paint, glue, or any of the other costs associated with modeling and painting. Assume that you already have these materials.

-You have to buy individual character models in your costs list. (Yes I know that you can convert, but realistically some armies don’t have the option of converting a character out of a basic troop squad. Ex: Demon Bloodthirster, Tyranid Hive Tyrant, etc. It keeps it fair.)

-There is no benefit to not using all the money in the budget, although those found to be over will lose 1 bonus point.

Scoring –
-You will receive points based on the size of the final list:
0pts to 850pts = 0 bonus points
850pts to 1000pts = 5 bonus points
1000pts to 1250pts = 7 bonus points
1250pts to 1500pts = 10 bonus points
1500pts to 1750pts = 13 bonus points
1750pts to 1850pts = 15 bonus points
1850pts to 2000pts = 18 bonus points
2000pts+ = 20 bonus points (with an additional bonus point for each 100pts over 2000pts)

-Each unit is only allowed 4 upgrade options to try and limit people abusing upgrades to get to higher points levels.

-Certain armies obviously require more models so “horde armies” receive bonus points. Any Imperial Guard, Ork, or Tyranid army receives 3 bonus points.

-GW really promotes the use of their battle forces when building an army however just about everyone knows how almost every battle force outside of the Space Marines ones are a garbage mish-mash of models that are hard to fully incorporate into a list. Any non-Space Marine army using a battle force receives 1 bonus point for each battle force box in their list.


Composition –
You must follow the FOC. Lists must include at least 1 HQ choice and 2 Troops choices. Additional bonus points will be awarded for the following:
-Included 1 Elites, Fast Attack, and Heavy Support choice (must have 1 of each) = 5 bonus points
-Each additional unit (HQ, Troop, Elite, Fast Attack, or Heavy Support after rounding out the FOC with the bonus listed above. Transports don’t count) = 2 bonus points
-Included at least 5 units with armor values (transports count) = 2 bonus points
-Included at least 2 monstrous creature units = 2 bonus points
-Included at least 6 anti-tank weapons (Ranged weapons w/ S8 or higher) = 2 bonus points
-Included a named character (upgrade characters do not count) = 1 bonus point


Lists that are judged competitive by myself or other posters will receive bonus points. This is done by selecting the quote tags and listing the players name and the competitive like the example:

Eagleboy's List = Competitive. +1 bonus point
Each player who credits your list as being competitive will earn you 1 bonus point.

Follow this example below to get the form for your post –

Costs:
$57.75 Bloodthirster
$22.50 Flamers Box
$22.50 Flamers Box
$22 Plaguebearers Box
$22 Plaguebearers Box
$24.75 Horrors Box
$24.75 Horrors Box
$33 Demon Prince
$33 Demon Prince
$33 Demon Prince

Total = $295.25

List:
Bloodthirster w/ Unholy Might & Blessing of the Blood God - 275pts
3 Flamers of Tzeentch - 105pts
3 Flamers of Tzeentch -105pts
5 Plaguebearers - 75pts
5 Plaguebearers - 75pts
5 Horrors w/ Bolt - 95pts
5 Horrors w/ Bolt - 95pts
5 Horrors w/ Bolt - 95pts
5 Horrors w/ Bolt - 95pts
Demon Prince w/ MoT, Bolt & Gaze - 160pts
Demon Prince w/ MoT, Bolt & Gaze - 160pts
Demon Prince w/ MoT, Bolt & Gaze - 160pts

Total = 1495pts

Bonus Points:
1250pts to 1500pts 10pts
Includes 2 Monstrous Creatures 2pts
Includes 6 anti-tank weapons 2pts

Total = 14 bonus points


Reward -
The winner of this challenge will receive 1 character blister from the GW range – up to $25 in value. Ex: Vulkan, Skulltaker, Eldrard, etc. The winner will be PM’d by me at the conclusion of this challenge so I can get your contact information. I’ll purchase it through the GW site and just use your address for the shipping so that I can get around purchasing it myself in person and then paying twice as much to ship it via FedEx or something.

If we come up with something that needs to be FAQ's into this challenge it will be included in a further post. The challenge will conclude on April 20th at midnight.

[Lerra]

Costs:

Fateweaver $50
The Masque $15
3 Boxes of Horrors of Tzeentch @ $24.50 each = $73.50
2 Boxes of Seekers of Slaanesh @ 24.75 each = $49.50
2 Boxes of Flamers of Tzeentch @ $22.50 each = $45
2 Boxes of Daemon Prince @ $33 each = $66

Total:
$299

Army list:
2043 points (Slaanesh/Tzeentch)

HQ
Fateweaver: 333
The Masque: 100

Troops
Horrors (5): 120
Bolt of Tzeentch, Icon
Horrors (5): 120
Bolt of Tzeentch, Icon
Horrors (5): 120
Bolt of Tzeentch, Icon
Horrors (5): 95
Bolt of Tzeentch
Horrors (5): 95
Bolt of Tzeentch
Horrors (5): 95
Bolt of Tzeentch

Elites
Flamers (3): 130
Bolt of Tzeentch
Flamers (3): 130
Bolt of Tzeentch

Fast
Seekers(5): 120
Transfixing Gaze, Chaos Icon, Instrument of Chaos
Seekers(5): 120
Transfixing Gaze, Chaos Icon, Instrument of Chaos

Heavy
Daemon Prince: 230
Mark of Tzeentch, Bolt of Change, Breath of Chaos, Daemonic Flight
Daemon Prince: 230
Mark of Tzeentch, Bolt of Change, Breath of Chaos, Daemonic Flight

Bonus Points:
2000pts+ = 20 bonus points
Included 1 Elites, Fast Attack, and Heavy Support choice (must have 1 of each) = 5 bonus points
Each additional unit (HQ, Troop, Elite, Fast Attack, or Heavy Support after rounding out the FOC with the bonus listed above. Transports don’t count) = 16 bonus points
Included at least 2 monstrous creature units = 2 bonus points
-Included at least 6 anti-tank weapons (Ranged weapons w/ S8 or higher) = 2 bonus points
-Included a named character (upgrade characters do not count) = 1 bonus point

Total Bonus Points: 46 Points

Strangely enough, this list is pretty similar to my current tournament list!

Edit: I removed the Changeling. I forgot there is actually a GW model for him now, and I just use a different colored Horror in my army. It doesn't affect my bonus points at all - it's only a 5 point model.

[DarkLink]

Would Assault on Black Reach count? I'd imagine that the AOBR kit would give you an extremely good return on investment, and probably beat out any other possible approach.

Just off the top of my head, 2 AOBR kits, 1 Land Raider kit and 2 Land Speeders would get most of the bonus points you listed, plus have a very high point total (I'll put together a list). It would be a reasonably competitive list, too, though the wargear options may not be ideal.

Edit:
Here's the list

Purchase:
2 Assault on Black Reach ($180)
2 Land Speeders ($60)
1 Land Raider ($62)

Total= $302 (with $5 leeway)

Army List
2x Chapter Masters, Relic Blades Artificer Armor, Hellfire Rounds, Digital Weapons....380

10 Terminators.......400

2x Dreadnought, Extra Armor......240

2x 10 Tactical Marines, Flamer, Missile Launcher, Sgt w/ Meltabombs, Teleport Homer....240

2x Land Speeders, Multi Melta, Typhoon Missile Launcher....200

Land Raider, Storm Bolter, Multi-Melta, Extra Armor....285

Total: 1905

That's:
1850-2000pts (18pts)
5 vehicles (2pts)
Unit in every FA category (5pts)
7 more than the minimum requirements (14pts)
>6 Anti Tank weapons (2pts)

Total=41pts


Edit:
If need be, you could switch out the AoBR kit for the SM battle force, they cost the same. You don't get quite as many points out of it, though.

[Paul]

Costs:
95.00 Cadian Battleforce
22.00 Creed and Kell box
15.00 Commissar
20.00 RATLINGS
49.50 Leman Russ Demolisher Kit
49.50 Leman Russ Demolisher Kit
49.50 Leman Russ Demolisher Kit
COST: $300.50

List:
Company Command Squad with Carapace Armor, Medic, Heavy Flamer, Lascannon, Creed and Kell - 315

Lord Commissar with Plasma Pistol, Power Fist, Carapace Armor, Camo Cloak - 115

Veteran Squad with Meltagun, Lascannon, Carapace Armor, Camo Cloaks - 160

Veteran Squad with Lascannon, Carapace Armor, Camo Cloaks, Demolitions - 180

Ratling Squad - 50

Sentinel - with Lascannon, Hunter Killer Missile, Smoke Launchers, Camo-Netting - 95

Leman Russ Executioner with Sposon Plasma Cannons, Hull Lascannon, Extra Armor, Camo Netting - 280

Leman Russ Executioner with Sposon Plasma Cannons, Hull Lascannon, Extra Armor, Camo Netting - 280

Leman Russ Executioner with Sposon Plasma Cannons, Hull Lascannon, Extra Armor, Camo Netting - 280

Total = 1755pts

Bonus Points:
IG = 3pts
1750-1850 = 15pts
Rounded out FOC = 5pts
2x Extra Heavy Support = 4 pts
1x Extra HQ = 2pts
6x AT Weapons = 2 pts
Named Character = 1pt
One Battleforce = 1 pt
Total = 33 bonus points

ADDENDUM: Yarrick isn't on the GW website, or I'd have added him instead of the Commissar most likely. All of the above can be made with listed kits.

EDIT: I've been beat already. This is hard for Guard.

[DarkLink]

Here's another:

2 SM Battle Boxes ($180)
Calgar (16.50)
Librarian with Axe and Plasma Pistol (15)
Land Raider (62)
Land Speeder (30)
total = $301.5


Marneus Calgar....250
SM Librarian, Epistolary, Plasma Pistol....165
3x10 Tactical marines, Sgt w/ meltabombs and teleport homer...570
2 Rhinos, Extra Armor, Dozer Blades, Storm Bolter...130
2x5 Scouts, Heavy Bolter, sgt w/ meltabombs, teleport homer...210
2x5 Assault Marines, Sgt w/ power fist, meltabombs...260
Land Speeder, Multi-melta, Typhoon Missile Launcher...100
Land Raider, Extra Armor, Storm Bolter, Multi Melta...285

Total=1940


Points:
1850+ (18)
Special Character (1pts)
8 more than the minimum requirements (16pts)


Total=35pts

Edit: less competitive, and it doesn't get as many bonus points, but it doesn't use the Assault on Black Reach set either.

[DarkLink]

And with the Grey Knights:

Driago (22.50)
3x GK Terminator Squads (150)
2x GK Power Armor Squads (66)
Land Raider (62)
Total=$300.50


Army List

Driago.............275
5 Purifiers, 2 Psycannons, 1 warding Stave, Psybolt ammo.......180
3x 5 Paladins, 1 Psycannon, Apothecary, Brotherhood Banner, 1 warding Stave.....1245
5 Interceptors, 1 Incinerator, Psybolt Ammo, Warding Stave, 1 Falchion...205
Land Raider, Truesilver Armor, Storm Bolter, Extra Armor, Multi Melta...300
Total=2205pts


Points:
2000+ (20pts)
1 unit in each Force Org slot (5pts)
4 extra units (8pts)
Named Character (1pt)
Total=34pts

[smimicm]

Lerra list = Competitive. +1 bonus point
Darklinks Grey Knights list = Competitive. +1 bonus point (also you shorted yourself 2 points for being 200 points over 2k)

Tua List


Tau Battleforce x3 $90 x3 $270
Sniper drone team $33

$303 total

HQ
Commander Shas’O 205 pts
W/ Twinlinked plasma rifle, shield generator, iridium armor, hard-wired drone controller with 2 marker drones
Commander Shas’O 200 pts
W/ Twinlinked plasma rifle, shield generator, Failsafe detonator, hard-wired drone controller with 2 marker drones
Troop 1 82 pts
12 kroot carnivores
Troop 2 82 pts
12 kroot carnivores
Troop 3 82 pts
12 kroot carnivores
Troop 4 158 pts
6 Firewarriors
W/ shas’ul, EMP grenades on squad, marker light on shas’ul, hard-wired drone controller with 2 marker drones
Troop 5 158 pts
6 Firewarriors
W/ shas’ul, EMP grenades on squad, marker light on shas’ul, hard-wired drone controller with 2 marker drones
Troop 6 158 pts
6 Firewarriors
W/ shas’ul, EMP grenades on squad, marker light on shas’ul, hard-wired drone controller with 2 marker drones
Elite 1 220 pts
3stealth suits
W/ shas’vre, each suit has hard-wired drone controller with 2 marker drones
Elite 2 220 pts
3stealth suits
W/ shas’vre, each suit has hard-wired drone controller with 2 marker drones
Elite 3 220 pts
3stealth suits
W/ shas’vre, each suit has hard-wired drone controller with 2 marker drones
FA 1 295 pts
6 pathfinders
W/ shas’ui, EMP grenades on squad, hard-wired drone controller with 2 marker drones, bonding knife
Devil fish
W/ 2 seeker missiles, smart missile system, multi-tracker
FA 2 295 pts
6 pathfinders
W/ shas’ui, EMP grenades on squad, hard-wired drone controller with 2 marker drones, bonding knife
Devil fish
W/ 2 seeker missiles, smart missile system, multi-tracker
FA 3295 pts
6 pathfinders
W/ shas’ui, EMP grenades on squad, hard-wired drone controller with 2 marker drones, bonding knife
Devil fish
W/ 2 seeker missiles, smart missile system, multi-tracker
Heavy 1 80 pts
Stealth drone team

2750 total pts = 27 points
3 battle forces = 3 points
At least 1 Elite, Fast Attack, Heavy = 5 points
9 additional units (1 HQ, 4 Troop, 2 Elite, 2 Fast attack)= 18 points
6 anti-tank weapons (6 seeker missiles on the devil fish) = 2 points
Bonus points for being competitive = 0 so far

Total points = 55

[gcsmith]

Quick question do all of the options need to be in the kit you buy. Cus in that case the Tau list above is illegal, you only get 1 missle per fish kit, and no smart missle systems. Nor do the kits listed give as many marker drones listed, hed get 2 drones total :p

If he doesnt need all the upgrades in the kit, then good list.

[Gir]

Smimicm, I would argue that you have way to many drones for what you bought (Espically marker drones), and the battleforces to not come with Pathfinders.

[Orminah]

Placeholder.

Also, to the first list posted, your list is illegal. I was going to hijack it and fix it, but I'll point out instead that you need to "pay for" the Changeling.

[memnarch_129]

Costs:

Lord Kaldor Draigo $22.25
Grandmaster (Stern) $20
Vindicare Assassin $15
Techmarine $20
1 box of Grey Knight Terminators $50
2 boxes of Grey Knights $66
2 DreadKnights $107.50

Total:
$300.75

Army list:
2520 points

HQ
Lord Kaldor Draigo: 275
Grandmaster w/ Mastery Lv.2,Psycannon, Warding Stave, Orbital Strike Relay : 330

Troops
Paladin (1): 160
Apothecary, Psybolts, MC Falchions
Paladin (1): 105
Psybolts, Brotherhood Banner, MC Stormbolter
Paladin (1): 105
Psybolts, MC Stormbolter, MC Warding Stave
Paladin (1): 90
Psybolts, MC Stormbolter, MC Falchions
Paladin (1): 90
Psybolts, MC Stormbolter, MC Falchions

Elites
Vindicare Assassin: 145
Techmarine: 200
Conversion Beamer, Warding Stave, Psychostroke Grenades, Orbital Strike Relay


Fast
Interceptors (5): 205
Psybolts, Incinerator, Warding Stave, Falchions
Interceptors (5): 205
Psybolts, Incinerator, Warding Stave, Falchions


Heavy
DreadKnight: 305
Heavy Psycannon, Gattling Psilancer, Nemesis Greatsword, Personal Teleporter
DreadKnight: 305
Heavy Psycannon, Gattling Psilancer, Nemesis Greatsword, Personal Teleporter


Bonus Points:
2500pts+ = 25 bonus points
Included 1 Elites, Fast Attack, and Heavy Support choice (must have 1 of each) = 5 bonus points
Each additional unit (HQ, Troop, Elite, Fast Attack, or Heavy Support after rounding out the FOC with the bonus listed above. Transports don’t count) = 14 bonus points
Included at least 2 monstrous creature units = 2 bonus points
Included a named character (upgrade characters do not count) = 1 bonus point

Total Bonus Points: 47 Points

[Lemt]

NO LIST IN THIS THREAD IS TO BE CONSIDERED IN THE CONTEST.

Eldar Battleforce x3 - 270
Asurmen - 17
Karandras - 17

TOTAL 304


HQ
Phoenix Lord Asurmen
Phoenix Lord Karandras

TROOPS
5 Dire Avengers w/ Exarch (Shimmershield, Defend, Bladestorm)
5 Dire Avengers w/ Exarch (Shimmershield, Defend, Bladestorm)
5 Dire Avengers w/ Exarch (Shimmershield, Defend, Bladestorm)
10 Guardians w/ Brightlance
10 Guardians w/ Brightlance
10 Guardians w/ Brightlance

TRANSPORTS (for the Dire Avengers)
Wave Serpent w/ TL Bright Lances, Vectored Engines, Star Engines and Spirit Stones
Wave Serpent w/ TL Bright Lances, Vectored Engines, Star Engines and Spirit Stones
Wave Serpent w/ TL Bright Lances, Vectored Engines, Star Engines and Spirit Stones

HEAVY SUPPORT
War Walker w/ Spirit Stones, Bright Lance, Starcannon
War Walker w/ Spirit Stones, Bright Lance, Starcannon
War Walker w/ Spirit Stones, Bright Lance, Starcannon

TOTAL 1966

I think it totals to 42 points.
*18 for 1850-2000 poiints.
*3 for Battleforces
*16 for extra units
*2 for 5+ armored units
*2 for 6+ anti-tank weapons
*1 for having a named character

I have 2 named characters, but I understand you still only get 1 point.


Smimicm, I would argue that you have way to many drones for what you bought (Espically marker drones), and the battleforces to not come with Pathfinders.
What he said. Those groups of Pathfinders are an extra 885 points you got from nowhere, and a ton of points. Without them, you lose your Fast Attack options too.


EDIT: Just in case you plan on buying an army, try other online retailers other than GW. You can get qite the discount.
EDIT 2: ignore this one
EDIT 3: The final List is in another post.

Eldar Battleforce x2 - 180
Striking Scorpions - 30
Swooping Hawks - 30
Vyper - 30
Asurmen - 17
Karandras - 17

TOTAL 304


HQ
Phoenix Lord Asurmen (230)
Phoenix Lord Karandras (215)

ELITES
6 Striking Scorpions w/ Exarch (Scorpion's Claw, Biting Blade, Shadow Strike) (148)

TROOPS
5 Dire Avengers w/ Exarch (Shimmershield, Defend, Bladestorm) (117)
5 Dire Avengers w/ Exarch (Shimmershield, Defend, Bladestorm) (117)
10 Guardians w/ Brightlance (110)
10 Guardians w/ Brightlance (110)

TRANSPORTS
Wave Serpent w/ TL Bright Lances, Vectored Engines, Star Engines and Spirit Stones (190)
Wave Serpent w/ TL Bright Lances, Vectored Engines, Star Engines and Spirit Stones (190)

FAST ATTACK
6 Swooping Hawks w/ Exarch (Sunrifle, Skyleap, Intercept) (173)
Vyper w/ Brightlance, Vectored Engines, Holo Fields and Star Engines (145)

HEAVY SUPPORT
War Walker w/ Spirit Stones, Bright Lance, Starcannon (90)
War Walker w/ Spirit Stones, Bright Lance, Starcannon (90)

TOTAL 1777

*** Revised points value
13 points for 1750+ list.
2 points for 2 Battleboxes.
5 points for all FoC types.
10 points for extra units.
2 points for 5+ armored units.
2 points for 6+ anti-tank weapons.
1 point for at least 1 named character.

TOTAL 35 points.

[Lemt]

Maaan I miss the old Necron Battleforce. this is really just for fun, and to see how many points you could reasonably get for 300$. This one is only 38 points, so the Eldar list I posted is better.


Necron Battleforce x3 - 270
2x Necron Lord with Resurrection Orb - 30

TOTAL 300$

HQ
Necron Lord w/ Orb, Veil
Necron Lord w/ Orb, shroud, Phase Shifter

TROOPS
14 Warriors w/ Disruption Fields
14 Warriors w/ Disruption Fields
14 Warriors w/ Disruption Fields
14 Warriors w/ Disruption Fields
14 Warriors w/ Disruption Fields
14 Warriors w/ Disruption Fields

FAST ATTACK
3 Destroyers
3 Destroyers
3 Destroyers
7 Scarab Swarms w/ Disruption Fields
7 Scarab Swarms w/ Disruption Fields
7 Scarab Swarms w/ Disruption Fields

TOTAL 2466

Pity they don't sell this anymore:
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?prodId=prod1430005
This was a GREAT deal. Guess that's why they don't sell it. :(
for 20$ more than two Battleforces you got a Monolith and two Necron Lords. You lost 8 Warriors and 2 Scarab Swarms, but it was so worth it.

Yes, 6 FA options. Sue me. :P

[Gir]

Damnit Lemt, I was making a necron one becuase I like a challenge :P

Here's mine:

2 Battleforces $180
Monolith $62
Nightbringer $35
Lord with Res orb $15
Scarabs $12.25
Total: $304.25 (75c to spare!)

HQ:
Nightbringer 360pts
Necron lord with Res Orb, Phylactery, Warscythe, Lightning Field, Solar Pulse 210pts
Troops:
12 Warriors with Disruption Fields 240pts
12 Warriors with Disruption Fields 240pts
12 Warriors with Disruption Fields 240pts
10 Warriors with Disruption Fields 200pts
10 Warriors with Disruption Fields 200pts
Fast Attack:
3 Destroyers 150pts
3 Destroyers 150pts
8 Scarab swarms with Disruption Fields 128pts
8 Scarab swarms with Disruption Fields 128pts
Heavy Support:
Monolith 235pts

Total: 2481

Bonuses:
Points 2000+: 24
Battleforces (2): 2
Named Character: 1

Total: 27

Stupid lack of a plastic elites option cost me 14 pts :(
(Also I know there's 4 Fast attack choices, but my argument is that I'm using Necrons :P)

[Gir]

I think it totals to 42 points.
*18 for 1850-2000 poiints.
*3 for Battleforces
*16 for extra units
*2 for 5+ armored units
*2 for 6+ anti-tank weapons
*1 for having a named character


You don't get the 16 extra points for units because you have no elites.

[Lemt]

You don't get the 16 extra points for units because you have no elites.

Wait, so the "have 1 of each FoC slot" is a requirement for the bonuses? Baaaack to the drawing board.

And don't worry. Necrons are too awesome to be constrained by a FoC. :P

[Random Guy]

Lemt your list has too many FA slots on it, but here's the necron list I came up with.

2x Battleforce
Lord
Nightbringer
2x Flayed Ones
Tomb Spyder
Warriors Set

Lord w/ Viel, Res Orb & Warcythe (210)

Nightbringer (360)

4 Flayed Ones w/ Disruption fields (84)

68 Warriors divided into 6 units all w/Disruption Fields (1360)

10 Scarab Swarms w/Disruption Fields (160)

7 Scarabs w/Disruption Fields (112)

5 Destroyers (250)

Tomb Spyder (55)


Total Points 2591

Army Size 26pts
Included 1 Elites, Fast Attack, and Heavy Support choice 5pts
Each additional unit 14pts
2 Monstrous Creatures 2pts
Named Character 1pt
2 Battleforces 2pts

Total 50 Points

That's the highest total so far but about as competitive as kitchen knife in a sniper battle.

Random Guy

[Gir]

You could almost win this with necrons if it wasn't for the annoying 0-1 limit on c'tans. 680pts for $70

[Lemt]

You could almost win this with necrons if it wasn't for the annoying 0-1 limit on c'tans. 680pts for $70

Well, you telling me my Eldar list was wrong made me fix it. The new version has all FoC types, and is 43 points instead of 42. :D

And that eldar list has over 400 points for 34$. :eek:


EDIT: Hmm, the Tau list has Fire Warriors that "count as" Pathfinders, hence the ton of extra points. Is that allowed? If so, you can do some naughty things, like taking normal (ad much cheaper) Space Marines and having them be a GK successor chapter. Or have Necron Warriors count as Immortals.

[gcsmith]

I think for this its buy the correct models.

[eagleboy7259]

CHALLENGE FAQ #1

-You must fit within the FOC, if you use battleforces or anything else and find that you have more units than you can take legally they won't count. For those already posting you are free to go back and adjust your list to reflect this.

-Since there is a prize up for grabs I think there should be a limit on the number of lists, I'll go with Darklink as a precedent and say you can post 3
.
-Since certain races don't really have the option of proxying / converting certain kits for other kits (In the real world you could use fire warriors as pathfinders but you could never use gaunts as gargoyles) you must include the GW product in your army.

-If you include unit upgrade characters in your army, you must include the GW product. For upgrade character that are not supported by the GW range insert a $20 charge in your list.

-For models not supported by the GW range, insert the cost of the base model and assume that the master converter can fix it (chimera = hydra in cost). For models with no conversion precedent, like the Dark Eldar airplanes, assume that GW will price them like the Storm Raven and Vendetta kits ($66)

-You need 1 HQ, 1 Elites, 2 Troop, 1 Fast Attack, and 1 Heavy Support in your list before you can count addtional units. These 6 units do not count outside the bonus for achieving a wel rounded FOC (Number of total units in your list minus six then multplied by two will give you your unit bonus points aka (X-6) x 2 = Unit Bonus Points)

-The first person to post a list will get credit for it. No repeat lists. You need different kits! Different wargear options on the same list is still the same list for the purposes of this challenge.

-You only get 1 bonus point for included a named character. If you include 2 or more named characters you still only get 1 bonus point. Upgrade characters do not count as named characters.

-There is no limit to the number of times a poster can tag someone for having a compettive list. However each poster may only tag each list once.
-Assault on Black Reach will not give you a bonus point for having a battleforce.

-More to come later probably....

[Lemt]

2x Space Marine Battleforce - 180
Marneus - 16.50
Tigurius - 17
3x Techmarine - 45
Devastators - 35

TOTAL 293.5$



HQ
Marneus - 250
Tigurius - 230

ELITES
Techmarine w/ Plasma Pistol, Power Weapon (80)
Techmarine w/ Plasma Pistol, Power Weapon (80)
Techmarine w/ Plasma Pistol, Power Weapon (80)

TROOPS
5 Marines w/ Fist, Plasma Pistol, Melta Bombs, Teleport Homer - 150
5 Marines w/ Fist, Plasma Pistol, Melta Bombs, Teleport Homer - 150
10 Marines w/ Fist, Plasma Pistol, Teleport Homer, Lascannon - 235
*Rhino w/ Storm Bolter, HK Missile, Dozer Blade, Extra Armor - 75
10 Marines w/ Fist, Plasma Pistol, Teleport Homer, Lascannon - 235
*Rhino w/ Storm Bolter, HK Missile, Dozer Blade, Extra Armor - 75
5 Scouts w/ Camo Cloaks, Fist, Teleport Homer and ML - 140
5 Scouts w/ Camo Cloaks, Fist, Teleport Homer and ML - 140

FAST ATTACK
5 Assault Marines w/ Fist, Storm Shield, Plasma Pistol and Melta Bombs - 160
5 Assault Marines w/ Fist, Storm Shield, Plasma Pistol and Melta Bombs - 160

HEAVY SUPPORT
Devastator Squad w/ 4 Lascannons - 230

TOTAL 2470

48 POINTS
*24 from 2470 points.
*5 for all FoC types.
*16 for extra units ((14-6)*2)
*2 for at least 6 anti-tank ranged weapons
*1 for at least 1 named character

I don't think this can be beat, but I'll stop trying now. &_&

[gcsmith]

sorry thats 48 u dnt get points for Marine Battle forces. :)

[Lemt]

sorry thats 48 u dnt get points for Marine Battle forces. :)

Nice catch, thanks. Fixed it. :D

[gcsmith]

also there is this model for tigurius http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440271a&prodId=prod1060113

saves u a couple of dolars.

[UltramarineFan]

Lady Malys-
Pts: 130

Haemonculus-mindphase gauntlet
Pts: 60

Haemonculus
Pts: 50

Trueborn (10)-2 with dark lance, 1 with blaster
Pts: 185
Raider-Flickerfield, night shield, splinter racks
Pts: 90

Kabalite Warriors (10)-1 with splinter cannon, 1 with blaster, Sybarite
Pts: 125
Raider-Flickerfield, night shield, splinter racks
Pts: 90

Kabalite Warriors (10)-1 with splinter cannon, 1 with blaster, Sybarite
Pts: 125
Raider-Flickerfield, night shield, splinter racks
Pts: 90

Reavers (6)-2 with heat lances, grav-talons
Pts: 166

Ravager-night shields, flickerfield, schock prow
Pts: 105

Total: 1251

Cost: $287.25

Between 1000-1250= 7
1 elite, fast attack, heavy support= 5
2 additional HQs= 4
6 anti-tank weapons= 2
named character= 1

19 bonus points.. I see why my armies become so expensive when this is the best i can do with $300

[eagleboy7259]

also there is this model for tigurius http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440271a&prodId=prod1060113

saves u a couple of dolars.

Yeah I was gonna say that was a damn shame if they got rid of him. Although your run-of-the-mill captains, librarians, and chaplains look better than a majority of the special character range.

Do you get all those heavy weapons in the Devastator Box? I thought it only came with enough to make a single plasma cannon, missile launcher, lascannon, and heavy bolter? And don't the scouts that come with the battleforce only give you the heavy bolter?

[Lerra]

A slight revision on my entry:

Costs:

Blue Scribes $20 (no model)
The Masque $15
3 Boxes of Horrors of Tzeentch @ $24.50 each = $73.50
1 Box of Seekers of Slaanesh = $24.50
3 Boxes of Flamers of Tzeentch @ $22.50 each = $67.50
3 Boxes of Daemon Prince @ $33 each = $99

Total:
$299.50

Army list:
2105 points

HQ
Blue Scribes: 130
The Masque: 100

Troops
Horrors (5): 120
Bolt of Tzeentch, Icon
Horrors (5): 120
Bolt of Tzeentch, Icon
Horrors (5): 120
Bolt of Tzeentch, Icon
Horrors (5): 100
Bolt of Tzeentch, Instrument of Chaos
Horrors (5): 100
Bolt of Tzeentch, Instrument of Chaos
Horrors (5): 100
Bolt of Tzeentch, Instrument of Chaos

Elites
Flamers (3): 135
Bolt of Tzeentch
Flamers (3): 135
Bolt of Tzeentch
Flamers (3): 135
Bolt of Tzeentch

Fast
Seekers(5): 120
Transfixing Gaze, Chaos Icon, Instrument of Chaos

Heavy
Daemon Prince: 230
Mark of Tzeentch, Bolt of Tzeentch, Breath of Chaos, Daemonic Flight
Daemon Prince: 230
Mark of Tzeentch, Bolt of Tzeentch, Breath of Chaos, Daemonic Flight
Daemon Prince: 230
Mark of Tzeentch, Bolt of Tzeentch, Breath of Chaos, Daemonic Flight

Bonus Points:
2000pts+ = 21 bonus points
Included 1 Elites, Fast Attack, and Heavy Support choice (must have 1 of each) = 5 bonus points
Each additional unit (HQ, Troop, Elite, Fast Attack, or Heavy Support after rounding out the FOC with the bonus listed above. Transports don’t count) = 18 bonus points
Included at least 2 monstrous creature units = 2 bonus points
-Included at least 6 anti-tank weapons (Ranged weapons w/ S8 or higher) = 2 bonus points
-Included a named character (upgrade characters do not count) = 1 bonus point

Total Bonus Points: 49 Points

*Note: If Blue Scribes (no model) for $20 is an issue, Skulltaker is also $20 and actually costs 10 points more, but I wanted to keep the list sort of fluffy with only 2 chaos gods.

[Lockark]

Useing USD prices. (Since $300 CAD would not go as far with CAD prices. XD)

But yah. I did this with Orks before they Raised the prices on Ork regimets.

Two Ork Battle Forces, two Ork Regiments(The old ones with 20 boyz), a Box of Nobs, and 4 Packs of Round Infantry Bases. It's abit over the 300 price limit, but gives you:

Two Trucks, converted Nob Bikers squad + Converted Warboss on bike, Converted Big Mec, 80 Boys. (The 40 from the two battle forces, and 40 converted using left over weapons the bases I bought.)

Orks are a great budget army if done right.



Sadly ork regiments went up in price with there repackaging, and now 40k Ork boyz are cheaper then fantasy ones.
O.o
(Lul, wut?)

[Gir]

Lady Malys-
Pts: 130

Haemonculus-mindphase gauntlet
Pts: 60

Haemonculus
Pts: 50

<snip>

Between 1000-1250= 7
1 elite, fast attack, heavy support= 5
2 additional HQs= 4
6 anti-tank weapons= 2
named character= 1

19 bonus points.. I see why my armies become so expensive when this is the best i can do with $300

Either you have to many HQ's, or Heamonculi are multiple units to a slot, and if they are, you only get points for one additional HQ I believe (As bonus points are for "slots", not choices)

[Lemt]

THIS ENTRY IS INVALID
Thanks to Random Guy for pointing it out.

Ork Battleforce - 90
Assault on Black Reach - 90
Grotsnik - 17
Killa-Kans - 44.50
2x Nobz - 50
TOTAL 291.5$


HQ
Grotsnik - 160
Warboss w/ Power Klaw, Cybork Body, Bosspole, TL Shoota - 105

ELITES
5 Nobz w/ Cybork Bodies, Power Klaw, Waaagh! Banner, Bosspole - 350
5 Nobz w/ Cybork Bodies, Power Klaw, Waaagh! Banner, Bosspole - 350
5 Nobz w/ Cybork Bodies, Power Klaw, Waaagh! Banner, Bosspole - 350

TROOPS
10 'Ard Boyz w/ Cybork Bodies, Nob, Power Klaw - 185
10 Boyz w/ Cybork Bodies, Rokkit Launcha, Nob, Power Klaw - 155
*Trukk w/ Armour, Wreckin' Ball, Red Paint Job, Reinforced Ram - 65
10 Boyz w/ Cybork Bodies, Rokkit Launcha, Nob, Power Klaw - 155
10 Boyz w/ Cybork Bodies, Rokkit Launcha, Nob, Power Klaw - 155

FAST ATTACK
3 Deffkoptas w/ Cybork Bodies, TL Rokkit-Launcha, Bigbomm, Buzzsaw - 270
3 Warbikers w/ Nob, Power Klaw, Bosspole, Cybork Bodies - 130

HEAVY SUPPORT
Killa Kan w/ Kustom Mega-blasta, Grot Riggers, Armor Plates - 70
Killa Kan w/ Kustom Mega-blasta, Grot Riggers, Armor Plates - 70
Killa Kan w/ Kustom Mega-blasta, Grot Riggers, Armor Plates - 70

TOTAL 2640

54 Points
*26 from 2640 points
*3 for being Ork
*1 for the Battleforce
*5 for all FoC types
*16 for extra units
*2 for ranged anti-tank
*1 for named character

I have another option, but I'm not sure people would allow it, since it means turning the Dreadnought from the Black Reach box into a Looted Wagon. I mean, I've seen Looted Carnifexes before, but yeah. If that IS allowed, join two Killa Kans together and add the wagon as HS. That would grant the 2 points from 5+ armored units, and 1 more for 2.7k points. However, that would be stretching the rules too much.

EDIT: If you really want to spend more money, get a painboy for the nobz. I left it out because it doesn't really make a difference.

[thecactusman17]

Lessee....


2x Haemonculae, with Webway portals, Dark Gates and hexrifles ($21.50) (250pts)

2x squads Incubi (5 models ea.) (59.50) w/ Klaivex, Onslaught (270 pts)
2x Raiders (66) w/ Flickerfields, Dark Lances (140 pts)

5x Bloodbrides w/ Shardnet and Impaler, Haywire grenades, and Hekatrix w/ Agonizer (models from spare Wych box) (115 pts)

1x squads Warriors (20 models ) (1 box + Raider riders) w/ 2xDarklance, blaster (convert extra weapons from existing bits in Raider, Warrior kits) and Sybarite. (24.75) (255)

3x squads Wyches (15 models ea.) (123.75) w/ 3X Hydra Gauntlets, Haywire grenades, Hexatrix w/ Agonizer. (720


Total cost: $295.5
total game points: 1750

Contest points:
1500-1750 points = 13 points
6 anti-tank weapons (4 dark lances, 1 blaster, 2 Dark Gates)

I'm not sure about "additional units," the way it's worded looks like it only applies if you have a unit in each FO slot first. But if it's just for 1HQ 2 troops then, I have an additional 12 points.

Extra points for Battleforces kind of sucks for an army without a battleforce of any sort. But at least anyone facing this would be 100% scared pantsless if I were to put either of those webways down on their lines.

[Random Guy]

Okay, I'm going to have a second attempt. I tried DOA blood angels but that didn't score too well but then I decided the best thing to do was to max out the force org so here is a space wolf list.I'm suprised no-one else has tried wolves yet. It's going to take some beating I think without points for being competitive, but I could be wrong...

Buying list
Classic Nijal
3x Rune Priest
3x Wolf Packs
Tactical Squad
Devestator Squad
Thunderwolf Cavalry (I've assumed these are the same price as bloodcrushers)
3 Man snap fit Marine Box

Total $302.25

Nijal (245)

Rune Priest (195)
Jaws, MH
Master of Runes
Plasma Pistol
Runic Armour
Wolftooth Necklace

Rune Priest (220)
Jaws, LL
Master of Runes
Plasma Pistol
Runic Armour
Saga of the Warrior Born

Rune Priest (195)
LL MH
Master of Runes
Plasma Pistol
Runic Armour
Chooser of the Slain

Lone Wolf (85)
Thunder Hammer
Storm Shield
Melta bombs

Lone Wolf (85)
Thunder Hammer
Storm Shield
Melta bombs

Lone Wolf (85)
Thunder Hammer
Storm Shield
Melta bombs

9 Grey Hunters (195)
Meltagun
Plasma Pistol
Power Fist
Mark of the Wolfen

5 Grey Hunters (140)
Plasma gun
Plasma Pistol
Power Fist
Mark of the Wolfen

5 Grey Hunters (140)
Plasma gun
Plasma Pistol
Power Fist
Mark of the Wolfen

5 Grey Hunters (140)
Plasma gun
Plasma Pistol
Power Fist
Mark of the Wolfen

5 Grey Hunters (130)
Plasma gun
Plasma Pistol
Power Weapon
Mark of the Wolfen

5 Grey Hunters (130)
Plasma gun
Plasma Pistol
Power Weapon
Mark of the Wolfen

Thunderwolf (115)
Thunder Hammer
Storm Shield
Melta bombs

Thunderwolf (115)
Thunder Hammer
Storm Shield
Melta bombs

Thunderwolf (115)
Thunder Hammer
Storm Shield
Melta bombs

Long Fangs (135)
Pack Leader w/Power Fist and Plasma Pistol
2 Long Fangs w/Lascannons

Long Fangs (145)
Pack Leader w/Power Fist and Plasma Pistol
2 Long Fangs w/Plasma Cannons
Long Fang w/Heavy Bolters

Long Fangs (130)
Pack Leader w/Power Fist and Plasma Pistol
2 Long Fang w/Missile Launchers
Long Fang w/Multi-Melta

Total points 2740

Scoring
Army Size 27
Ballanced army 5
Additional units 22
Anti Tank 2
Named Character 1

Total 57

Random Guy

[eagleboy7259]

FAQ #2
-You recieve bonus points for filling up FOC slots. Thus the most bonus points that you can gain in this way is 22 (1 HQ, 2 Elites, 4 Troops, 2 Fast Attack, 2 Heavy Support) Like said before transports do not count. Armies that can include addtional units (Demons w/ Heralds, Space Wolves w/ their crazy 4 HQ choices, choices that never count against your FOC chart) cannot gain bonuses in that way. You can still spend the points for army size but you will not gain an addtional bonus point for extra units. This is to balance out the differences between the races somewhat.

[scadugenga]

IG Cost:

2 Battalion Boxes: $195
3 Storm Trooper squads @ $19.75 ea: $59.25
1 Leman Russ Demolisher kit $49.50
Total Cost: $303.75

HQ:
Company Command Squad (Carapace, Camo Cloaks, Medic, LC Team) 140
Company Command Squad (Carapace, Camo Cloaks, Medic, LC Team) 140

Troops:

Vet: Carapace, Camo Cloaks 1 LC Team 1 Hvy Flamer 170
Vet: Carapace, Camo Cloaks 1 Plasma, 1 Hvy Flamer 165
Vet: Carapace, Camo Cloaks 1 Melta, 1 LC team 160
Vet: Carapace, Camo Cloaks 1 Plasma, 1 LC team 165
Vet: Carapace, Camo Cloaks 1 Melta, 1 LC team 160

Elites:

Storm Troopers (5, Sarg w/power weapon) 95
Storm Troopers (5, Sarg w/power weapon) 95
Storm Troopers (5, Sarg w/power weapon) 95

Fast Attack:
Armor Sentinel, LC, Hunter Killer, Smoke Launcher, Camo Netting 95
Armor Sentinel, LC, Hunter Killer, Smoke Launcher, Camo Netting 95

Heavy Support

Demolisher (Las Cannon, Plasma Sponsons, Camo Netting, Extra Armor: 280

Total: 1855


Bonus Points:
Point cost: 18
IG: 3
2 Bat Box 2
Balance: 5
Extra units: 14
AT Weap: 2
Total: 44pts

[Lemt]

***THIS ENTRY IS INVALID***
Thanks to Random Guy for pointing that out.


Thunderwolf Cavalry (I've assumed these are the same price as bloodcrushers)
3 Man snap fit Marine Box

Not sure those thunderwolves fit the FAQ eagleboy made, but I have to support you in that it seems reasonable. Bloodcrushers are equivalent miniatures to Thunderwolves.

Where are those 3 man snap fit marines? It seems like a nice buy. I plan on building a GK army, and want to get a GK box and mix it up with normal marines. Would that be cheaper than normal squads?

EDIT: I can't seem to beat Random Guy using orks. I mean, I could using Dreadnoughts as Looted Wagons, but that feels like cheating, so no. Beating 57 points is gonna be hard. &_&

EDIT 2: Woah, I think I did it.

UPDATED ENTRY:
Assault on Black Reach - 90
5 Nobz - 125
Boyz - 24.75
Killa Kans - 44.50
Grotsnik - 17
301.25$


HQ
Warboss w/ Power Klaw, Cybork Body, Bosspole, TL Shoota - 105
Grotsnik - 160

ELITES
5 Nobz w/ 'eavy Armour, Power Klaw, Waaagh! Banner, Bosspole - 350
10 Nobz w/ 'eavy Armour, Power Klaw, Waaagh! Banner, Bosspole - 750
5 Nobz w/ 'eavy Armour, Power Klaw, Waaagh! Banner, Bosspole - 350

TROOPS
5 Nobz w/ 'eavy Armour, Power Klaw, Waaagh! Banner, Bosspole - 350
10 'Ard Boyz w/ Cybork Bodies, Nob, Power Klaw, Rokkit Launcha - 195
10 Boyz w/ Cybork Bodies, Rokkit Launcha, Nob, Power Klaw - 155
10 Boyz w/ Cybork Bodies, Rokkit Launcha, Nob, Power Klaw - 155

FAST ATTACK
Deffkopta w/ TL Rokkit-Launcha, Bigbomm, Buzzsaw, Cybork body - 90
Deffkopta w/ TL Rokkit-Launcha, Bigbomm, Buzzsaw, Cybork body - 90
Deffkopta w/ TL Rokkit-Launcha, Bigbomm, Buzzsaw, Cybork body - 90

HEAVY SUPPORT
Killa Kan w/ Kustom Mega-blasta, Grot Riggers, Armor Plates - 70
Killa Kan w/ Kustom Mega-blasta, Grot Riggers, Armor Plates - 70
Killa Kan w/ Kustom Mega-blasta, Grot Riggers, Armor Plates - 70

TOTAL 3000

59 points
*30 for 3000 points
*3 for Ork
*5 for all FoC types
*18 for extra units
*2 for Anti-tank ranged weapons
*1 for named Character

[gcsmith]

how did he get so many wolf squads from 1 pack of tactical

[Lemt]

how did he get so many wolf squads from 1 pack of tactical

He bought 3 Wolf Packs, AKA 5x6 Space Wolves.

[Random Guy]

I hate to tell you this Lemt but you've probably broken the "Each unit is only allowed 4 upgrade options to try and limit people abusing upgrades to get to higher points levels." rule. All nobz get their upgrades seperately which means you can have 4 upgrades total. Also 'ard boyz are a unit upgrade for boyz, regardless of what army builder says. Between those 2 you've probably gained about 1000 points in your list total.

If you want waaagh banners you have to buy the model http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat1490653&prodId=prod1130275 That's going to put you a little bit over budget I think...

Also I thought you had to work with the limitations of the models so if a kit only comes with 1 of something then if you want 2 you need multiple kits. Can someone clarify that one beause if that's not the case then I might be gaining some more points on my wolves...

Random Guy

[Lemt]

I hate to tell you this Lemt but you've probably broken the "Each unit is only allowed 4 upgrade options to try and limit people abusing upgrades to get to higher points levels." rule. All nobz get their upgrades seperately which means you can have 4 upgrades total. Also 'ard boyz are a unit upgrade for boyz, regardless of what army builder says. Between those 2 you've probably gained about 1000 points in your list total.

If you want waaagh banners you have to buy the model http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat1490653&prodId=prod1130275 That's going to put you a little bit over budget I think...

Also I thought you had to work with the limitations of the models so if a kit only comes with 1 of something then if you want 2 you need multiple kits. Can someone clarify that one beause if that's not the case then I might be gaining some more points on my wolves...

Random Guy

Dammit you're right. :(

As for converted models, here's the relevant FAQ entry:
-For models not supported by the GW range, insert the cost of the base model and assume that the master converter can fix it (chimera = hydra in cost). For models with no conversion precedent, like the Dark Eldar airplanes, assume that GW will price them like the Storm Raven and Vendetta kits ($66)
So as long as there's no official miniature for what you want, you can just use basic miniatures.

Well, my entry is non-valid, so I'll try to think of something else.

[Lemt]

I haven't been able to beat Random Guy's list, BUT I've been able to IMPROVE it. Same amount of Challenge points, 2730 army points (10 less). However, it costs a little over 20$ LESS than Random Guy's.

I won't post it, because that would be hijacking, and I don't want to say how to do it yet to not give Random Guy an ever higher advantage. :P


EDIT: And DAMN I almost tied with Random Guy, but I need 50 cents. :(

EDIT 2: Whatever, I'm doomed. This list will be shot down and/or FAQed away, but what can I say? I need those 50 cents.

2x 5 Cadians - 16.50
3x Techmarine - 45
Draigo - 22.25
GK Terminators - 50
5x Grey Knights - 165
TOTAL 298.75


HQ
Draigo - 275
GK Grand Master w/ Rad Grenades, Orbital Strike Relay, Warding Stave, Psycannon - 320

ELITES
Techmarine w/ Orbital Strike Relay, Conversion Beamer, Warding Stave, Psychotroke grenades - 160
Techmarine w/ Orbital Strike Relay, Conversion Beamer, Warding Stave, Psychotroke grenades - 160
Techmarine w/ Orbital Strike Relay, Conversion Beamer, Warding Stave, Psychotroke grenades - 160

TROOPS
5 WH Inquisitorial Storm Troopers w/ Veteran, Master-Crafted Eviscerator, Rosarius - 125
5 WH Inquisitorial Storm Troopers w/ Veteran, Master-Crafted Eviscerator, Rosarius - 125
Paladin (Apothecary) w/ Master-Crafted Warding Stave, Psybolt Ammo - 175
Paladin (Apothecary) w/ Master-Crafted Warding Stave, Psybolt Ammo - 175
Paladin (Apothecary) w/ Master-Crafted Warding Stave, Psybolt Ammo - 175
Paladin (Apothecary) w/ Master-Crafted Warding Stave, Psybolt Ammo - 175

FAST ATTACK
5 Interceptors w/ Incinerator, Warding Stave, Psybolt Ammo, Daemonhammer - 205
5 Interceptors w/ Incinerator, Warding Stave, Psybolt Ammo, Daemonhammer - 205
5 Interceptors w/ Incinerator, Warding Stave, Psybolt Ammo, Daemonhammer - 205

HEAVY SUPPORT
Purgation Squad w/ Warding Stave, 3 Psycannons - 185
Purgation Squad w/ Warding Stave, 3 Psycannons - 185


TOTAL 3010

*30 for 3010 Points
*5 for all FoC types
*20 for extra units
*2 for 6+ ranged anti-tank
*1 for named characters
58

The Terminators are turned into 4 Paladins and a Grand Master. None of those have official minis, and GK Terminators are the closest thing you can get... right?

[Random Guy]

I haven't been able to beat Random Guy's list, BUT I've been able to IMPROVE it. Same amount of Challenge points, 2730 army points (10 less). However, it costs a little over 20$ LESS than Random Guy's.

I won't post it, because that would be hijacking, and I don't want to say how to do it yet to not give Random Guy an ever higher advantage. :P


EDIT: And DAMN I almost tied with Random Guy, but I need 50 cents. :(

Okay you have spured me onto creating an even more broken and difficult to beat list. However I do feel that this doesn't really sit well with the spirit of the competition. The list I put up earlier, you could ligitimatly with no converting build that, this makes assumptions that you are converting nearly every option which doesn't exist. So for this reason regardless of whether it's legal under the competition rules I am NOT putting this list up for consideration. It's more here to prove that if you bend the rules as much as possible you can do some really silly things, and also to stop anyone else from typing this up.

List of models needed:

Logan
Ragnar
Nijal
Lucas
Rune Priest
Devestator Box
Thunderwolf Cavalry
3x Wolf Pack
2x Snap fit marine sets

Total Cost $301.75

List-
Logan, Ragnar, Nijal (760)

Rune Priest (220)
Master of Runes, Plasma Pistol, Runic Armour, Saga of the Warrior Born

3x Lone Wolf (3x85=255)
Thunder Hammer, Storm Shield, Melta Bombs

5x 5 Wolf Guard (5x190=950)
4 Thunder Hammers

5 Blood Claws (265)
Lucas, Plasma Gun, Plasma Pistol, Power Fist

3x Thunderwolf Cavalry (3x115=445)
Thunder Hammer, Storm Shield, Melta Bombs

2x 3 Long Fangs (145x2=290)
2x Lascannons, 2x Power Fist

3 Long Fangs (115)
2x Missile Launchers, 2x Power Fist

Total Points 3300

That means in total I'm up to 63 points, which I cannot believe is beatable now, unless I've missed something really silly. But like I said at the top I hope that someone comes out an faq's this list to being impossible somehow.

Random Guy

[Sam]

This won't win, but I found it impressive:

Necron Battleforce x 3 = $270
Necron Lord w/ Warsycthe & Res Orb x 2 = $30
Total: $300


HQ:

Necron Lord w/ Warscythe, Res Orb, & Veil of Darkness 210pts

Necron Lord w/ Warscythe, Res Orb, Phase Shifter, Phylactery, & Gaze of Flame 210pts

Troops:

Necron Warriors w/ Disruption Fields x14 280pts

Necron Warriors w/ Disruption Fields x14 280pts

Necron Warriors w/ Disruption Fields x14 280pts

Necron Warriors w/ Disruption Fields x14 280pts

Necron Warriors w/ Disruption Fields x14 280pts

Necron Warriors w/ Disruption Fields x14 280pts

Fast Attack:

Destroyers x5 250pts

Destroyers x4 200pts

Scarabs w/ Disruption Pods x10 160pts

Total: 2710pts (Plus 11 superfluous scarab swarms)

Bonus Points:

2000+ = 27
3 Battleforces = 3
Additional HQ = 2
Additional Troops = 8
Additional FA = 4
Total Bonus Points: 44

[Da Gargoyle]

You guys are really making me jealous. In the land of OZ our battle force sets alone are $150 each. For Eldar characters are $24 aus and elites $55.00 per box for eldar anyway. Bigger models range between $65 and $85 making it impossible to field anything more than a basic 500 point army. The killer is $25 for each wraithguard unless you catch a spercial. For the conversion rate on these knock off about 5% to get the US $ equivalent. And I believe the poor Kiwi's pay even more. The trick is shopping outside of GW for discounts.

Ironically a lot of it relates to government import duties rather than just GW pricing. And that is really rude considering they don't have any equivalent industry to protect here.