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Marador010
03-07-2011, 06:31 AM
Im in the process of not only giving my DA army some fluff of its own, but at the same time writing a Dark Angels story to coincide with games I play and ideas I have. So my question is to anyone who knows it, do the men in *ROBES* (not nighties) have a real life naming structure based off a civilization.
We all know Space Wolves get their names from viking legend. White Scars, Mongolian/Asian. Ultramarines, Roman/Greek. You get the idea, so im curious to know, where do DA names get thier origins?
Thanks for any help :)

PS. first post ever, please be nice :p

gwensdad
03-07-2011, 08:54 AM
Maybe look at historical records of knightly orders (Templar, etc) for some ideas.

Valkerie
03-07-2011, 02:51 PM
Maybe try some Japanese names. Samurai fight in elaborate outfits that resemble robes, and the various schools of martial monks do fight in robes (at least according to Hong Kong chop socky movies:))

If nothing else, it would help to set your guys apart from all the others.

Absolon
03-07-2011, 04:14 PM
A Dark Angel is bestowed his marine name once he is elevated out of the scout company. So up until that point they can pretty much have any name you like to represent the wide range of names from the different worlds the Sons of the Lion recruit from. Once they become a full fledged battle brother they are renamed and put there past life behind them. The vast majority of names are drawn from Judeo-Christian historical records with some Babylonian thrown in for spice. A good source for names would be any of the many listings of angelic names

Kieranator K82
03-07-2011, 05:16 PM
Absalon's bang on, but don't forget a few Judeo-Christian demon names too. The Master of the Deathwing, Belial, is named after one of the Four Crown Princes of Hell.

chromedog
03-08-2011, 04:16 AM
Sammael is also a judeo-christian daemonic name.

Just flick through any guide to j-c demonology to find names for DA.

Lemt
03-08-2011, 06:36 AM
http://www.behindthename.com/random/
More people should have this link in their favourites. Sure hope that helps!

gwensdad
03-08-2011, 08:45 AM
http://www.behindthename.com/random/
More people should have this link in their favourites. Sure hope that helps!

whooo, first name I generated was Jesus Christ.
Don't think that's a good Dark Angel name (MAYBE an inquisitor)

Drew da Destroya
03-08-2011, 02:15 PM
http://www.behindthename.com/random/
More people should have this link in their favourites. Sure hope that helps!

That's cool!

Grailkeeper
03-08-2011, 05:23 PM
Dark Angel names come from jewish/christian mythology- specifically angels- daemons used to be angels

http://www.angel-guide.com/names-angels.html Is very good- alphabetical

some of the most famous- from wikipedia
Malachim (translation: messengers), general word for angel
Lucifer (translation: light-bearer), angel that challenges god
Michael (translation: who is like God), performs God's kindness
Gabriel (translation: the strength of God), performs acts of justice and power
Raphael (translation: God Heals), God's healing force
Uriel (translation: God is my light), leads us to destiny
Seraphim (translation: the burning ones), sing and praise God
Malach HaMavet (translation: the angel of death)
Satan (translation: the prosecuter), brings people's sins before them in the heavenly court
Chayot HaKodesh (translation: the holy beasts)
Ophanim (translation: arbits) Astrological Influence
HaMerkavah (translation: the chariot), transports God's glory

MaltonNecromancer
03-20-2011, 05:35 PM
I always thought that DA were a bit of a mishmash, because the early fluff/models had them as Native Americans (look at that 1st ed. Captain's headdress!), whereas the naming conventions were predominantly biblical/apocrypal. You know, angelic names for an angelic army, though tending towards the more martial angels, as compared to the BA's more generic ones.

I would go with angelic names. If it ends in "iel" or "ael" (which I presume to mean "of God", although in 40K, it's probably transliterates as "Of The Emperor"), you're on the right lines. Failing that, go Hebrew (which is of course the most equivelant modern language to the one angelic names descend from), or else demonic (e.g.: Belial, etc...)

Other appropriate name suffixes would be "chel", "ech", or "iah". Three or more syllables is also pretty good: Nehemiah, Elimelech, etc..

Kawauso
03-20-2011, 05:43 PM
I always thought that DA were a bit of a mishmash, because the early fluff/models had them as Native Americans (look at that 1st ed. Captain's headdress!)

Wait, what?

There's nothing Native American about the style of the Dark Angels...they're medieval western European monks/knights...

The feathers fit with the 'angel' motif. Pretty much every Astartes chapter has angelic motifs because they're the 'Angels of Death'. Not to mention the Imperium has OCD about putting eagles and wings on everything.



Back on topic, though, I think everyone's pretty much got this covered...DA are often named using Biblical/Judeo-Christian names, particularly names taken from angels and/or demons.

gwensdad
03-20-2011, 06:19 PM
Wait, what?

There's nothing Native American about the style of the Dark Angels...they're medieval western European monks/knights...



The original background for The Deathwing had them spending a century on a world that resembled a Native American background and they took many of the customs and retain those customs within the company to "present day".
This story has mostly been retconned, but is remembered.

Grailkeeper
03-20-2011, 06:49 PM
Ever wonder why the death wing have feathers trinkets ?

Lane
03-20-2011, 09:37 PM
Ever wonder why the death wing have feathers trinkets ?

No, I have not.

Then again I have the Death Wing supplement for Space Hulk which includes the story behind the bone/ white armor and the feathers.

Lane
03-20-2011, 09:43 PM
The original background for The Deathwing had them spending a century on a world ... and they took many of the customs and retain those customs .

Not quite.

The DA did not stay on the planet, it was just a recruiting planet. The NA symbolism is in honor of a single squads actions fighting a genestealer infestation.

chromedog
03-21-2011, 03:20 AM
Not quite.

The DA did not stay on the planet, it was just a recruiting planet. The NA symbolism is in honor of a single squads actions fighting a genestealer infestation.

This.
It was one of their recruiting worlds. One of several (the rock is a spacecraft, no longer a planet) that can be visited.
It was the homeworld of THAT 1st company team that went to recruit the next generation and found the stealer infestation.
It was THAT world that had the Amerindian cultural background.
It was their stand, and their effort and loss (in cleansing the infestation) that created the tradition of the bone coloured DW armour (the colour of death for THAT culture and that world), those marines essentially gave themselves their own funeral, knowing full well that many of them would not be returning from the mission, as it was a suicide mission). The DA decided to keep the armour in that colour to honour the memory of those who fell.

Those Deathwing in that spacehulk supplement had their Marine names and ranks, as well as their own old tribal names and standings. Brother Lame bear was not called 'lame bear' outside of his 'people' group, but brother marine xxxx.

Just go with the usual angelic/daemonic names for their chapter names. For their "true" name, choose a culture and use it.

Marador010
03-21-2011, 11:29 PM
Thanks guys, great suggestions in there.

ill probs end up using the name generator alot in conjunction with the list of names.
:)

Gotthammer
03-22-2011, 08:11 AM
This.
It was one of their recruiting worlds. One of several (the rock is a spacecraft, no longer a planet) that can be visited.
It was the homeworld of THAT 1st company team that went to recruit the next generation and found the stealer infestation.

In the story Plains World is the DA's only recruiting world - it notes that "unless they broke with tradition and recruited from other worlds, the Chapter would end with the death of the present generation of Marines".

Another good name source is 20000 names (http://www.20000-names.com/) as you can search by nationality as well as meaning.

eldargal
03-22-2011, 08:35 AM
You cab ne a bit inventive within the constraints of the naming conventions. My brothers DA captain is Bobekial.:rolleyes:

JamesP
04-10-2011, 07:41 AM
In the story Plains World is the DA's only recruiting world - it notes that "unless they broke with tradition and recruited from other worlds, the Chapter would end with the death of the present generation of Marines".

I think that GW has revised this slightly since the publication of the Deathwing Space Hulk supplement and the Deathwing short story anthology.

Just like the Squats have been removed from the reprints of Ian Watson's novels and short stories, the Deathwing short story in the Deathwing anthology (AKA Plans World in the Deathwing supplement IIRC) has been retconned so the infested world is just one of many Dark Angel recruiting worlds and not their homeworld.

Reading the original edition, the world in question was meant to be their only recruiting world but that has been retconned away to fit in better with the modern Dark Angels background - Caliban, its destruction, the Rock picking up potential recruits from various worlds as we seen in Angels of Darkness, etc.

Gotthammer
04-10-2011, 08:52 AM
True, it has changed now, but in the story it was the only one originally and the 2nd ed codex noted that after the Plains World incident the chapter expanded its recruiting grounds.

And Squats are still in the reprint of Space Marine.

JamesP
04-12-2011, 02:19 PM
True, it has changed now, but in the story it was the only one originally and the 2nd ed codex noted that after the Plains World incident the chapter expanded its recruiting grounds.

And Squats are still in the reprint of Space Marine.

Yeah, it's a shame that they've been purged from the other Ian Watson books - and elsewhere. I think when GW brought back Space Marine for print on demand, they realised that there was no way they could bring it up to date with current 40K canon without cutting out huge chunks of the story. I'm glad they left it as it is.

Whereas with Plains World / Deathwing, as you and I both said, the planet used to be the only recruiting world but GW obviously felt they could retcon that away.

JonnyRoxtar
04-17-2011, 06:56 AM
http://www.thedarkfortress.co.uk/librarium/book_of_names.htm

knock yourself out :)

Naobi
04-21-2011, 07:37 PM
try Seventh Sanctum dot come they have name generators for all types of names and things there.

Anggul
04-23-2011, 05:41 AM
Just read Paradise Lost ;)

helvexis
05-01-2011, 06:23 AM
If your not naming all your dark angels naaman like all alpha legion is alpharous then your doing it wrong ;-)

That guy is such a bamf ;-)