View Full Version : Thousand Sons post-heresy armor color
jorz192
02-07-2011, 10:51 AM
Does anyone know why the Thousand Sons would change the color of their armor after the Horus Heresy and the destruction of Prospero?
And would veteran gamers be offended if I showed up with an army of thousand sons marines painted red?
Fantomex
02-07-2011, 02:19 PM
Their armour was changed when Ahriman cast The Rubric of Ahriman, to stop the endless Tzeentchian mutation that was plaguing the Legion.
All the marines were struck with blue & yellow lightning (for days, if I remember) until Magnus came along and stopped the spell. All non-psykers were bound as bodiless spirits into their now blue/yellow armour, and all the psykers had their powers greatly augmented!
Not sure if it has a bearing on the Sorcerers armour, I'd assume you could go either way with that, but being Tzeentch worshippers, they could probably go for some brightness!
And I'm sure nobody would moan about a pre-heresy army, hell, most players would probably be glad to see it..
jorz192
02-07-2011, 02:22 PM
I was hoping there was a bigger reason than that/: I almost feel that everyone who uses thousand sons should just use a red color scheme and ignore games-workshops paint scheme.
Is blue a sacred color to Tzeentch?
isotope99
02-07-2011, 03:15 PM
I think (from GW perspective) its to avoid confusion with the red/gold khorne colour scheme. If they were in heresy colours, they would have the same scheme as post heresy berserkers.
Doesn't explain why they were red&gold in the first place though. :confused:
If you want a fluff explanation, I'm not sure there's much more to it than rejecting their imperial roots by changing their armour. Happy to be contradicted by someone with more knowledge.
justsam
02-07-2011, 03:38 PM
Is blue a sacred color to Tzeentch?
i believe so. khorne is red, nurgle is green, slaanesh is purple, and tzeentch is blue
Doesn't explain why they were red&gold in the first place though.
I think the original colors were red/gold because magnus pre-heresy had golden skin and red hair.
jorz192
02-08-2011, 04:53 PM
Magnus was known as Magnus the red or the Crimson King. He had red skin. In the Visions of Heresy book it looks like some of the Thousand Sons have white and Red armor too.
And the pre-heresy colors of the world eaters were blue and white.
I like the red color scheme more in the visions of heresy.
Baron Spikey
02-08-2011, 07:10 PM
Doesn't explain why they were red&gold in the first place though.
I think the original colors were red/gold because magnus pre-heresy had golden skin and red hair.
They weren't red and gold, they were red and white.
Magnus was known as Magnus the red or the Crimson King. He had red skin. In the Visions of Heresy book it looks like some of the Thousand Sons have white and Red armor too.
And the pre-heresy colors of the world eaters were blue and white.
I like the red color scheme more in the visions of heresy.
It's also the pre-Heresy colour scheme that Index Astartes says they have so you infact prefer their actual pre-HH colours ;)
StraightSilver
02-09-2011, 08:39 AM
I think the reason may have been changed with the advent of the Heresy Novels.
If you read through Thousand Sons it describes the Phalanxes of Robots employed by the Thousands Sons in Battle.
Referred to as Automatons these robots are actually very different to the ones employed by the Mechanicus as rather than an instruction wafer they have a piece of crystal from the caves beneath Prospero embedded in them.
This allows them to be controlled telepathically.
The colour of these Automoton Phalanxes is Blue and Gold, the same as the surrent Thousand Sons colure scheme post Heresy.
There is a reference made I believe when Ahriman regards the phalanx of automotons and has a glimpse of the future when the Thousand Sons themselves would also become mindless automotons.
I think they possibly change their power armour post Heresy to reflect this.
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