davel
01-30-2011, 03:40 AM
Hi
for a long time i have been attending the grand tournament in nov. I would not put my down as a power gamer how ever I have been raising my painting game over last 3 years so am well practiced with my force. I tend to be the sort of gamer that ends up mid to lower tables having fun but never going through to final ( though finals are now defunked) i tend to roll 1's at wrong moments. Thats why I paint well.
booking ticket = big negative
Nov sold out in 3 hours. tickets sold on MON? my mate has to book time of of, I can't do that. Jan tickets the computer system crashed for 2 days? this may be a one off but not good.
fri registration = plus
my mate registered friday. Though I could not get there in time the queues on sat were non existent
hall lay out = plus
tables aer in rows width wise not length wise this reduces the amount of dodging around fellow gamers.
random tables =mixed blessing
no longer is waiting out side early on and dashing in to scoop table 1 an option ( yes I'm guilty of this). according to ref the tables work like this1st day it's all random 2nd day there are 2 groups upper ( 2 or more wins) and lower, with in groups random draws.
It's no good looking around the hall to work out how well you are doing, it does keep some suspense. it depends if you like suspense.
placings list =mixied blessing
again this is the suspense thing. only names tick no and table are printed so you can't work out how you are doing.
scoring system = seems to do what it was intended
the vote system kept power gaming and argumentative players to a min. though I'm not so hot on BA and SW spam I only spotted 1 army I'd describe as cheesy. I heard from my opponents that 1 person that he played was difficult/ argumentative.
of my games 3 were great (2wins and a draw)
1 was not doe to my opponent just having drawn wrong mission against wrong army.
1 was that in reverse i picked wrong stratergy and my dice came up 1 all at the wrong times
these opponents were also sound players.
It was when I revealed to the player I had nominated as my best opponent that he revealed that HE HAD FORGOT TO VOTE.
Looking at the scores the biggest factor in tournie success is winning. How ever for 3 races SW, DE, and BAthe top general did not win as many games as other players ( of their race) so it can matter.
My self I got one vote, and my army got nominated as best painted. I think most players logic is that there are separate prizes for painting.
most players got 1 vote, an ork player got 4 so I'm interpreting that as being most fun to play.
the compete against own army meant we saw some necrons and tau. SM had a hard time being most numerous, added with their variant lists made up a 3rd of the forces present.
NEWs from the front = plus
this is were tales of lone guards men stabbing to death hive tyrants appear. my mate dark crozius appeared here a fair bit and yes there were awards given. a nice touch.
painting =mixed blessing
Ok for 3 years I have been trying to get nominated and it finally payed off. Now instead of laying out army on a table you have to place them in a display cabinet.
If you have done a large basing board you can forget it ( although it may help in the spotting your army after game 1) it can be tricky to get your army in and out and have time to eat.
how ever the lighting makes them look great.
the winner/ 2nd place a heavily converted historic daemon hunters ( well looked like one but was probably using a marine dex) army with all models with non metalic/ metal paint and a heavily converted plague marine force.
army list prize = Plus
of course I'm going to say plus, I won it. Though the staff really weren't expecting any one to go to the lengths i did. be warned i have another Idea brewing.
5 game in to days =mixed blessing
they probably have had many complaints from police after car accidents on the sunday. for those who have a long drive It is probably a good thing for those who live nearer a bad thing.
40k quiz = Plus
This replaces the GEN knowledge quiz on Sat night ( has no bearing on results of tournie) at first I though too easy but the devious guess the special chariter round was genius
accoustics = negative
listening for announcements was suffered the british rail effect.
And now the killyness of armies average points for winning games not best army votes. Any discrepancies from official data is due to human ( me) error.
1 witch hunters 10 ( 1 player)
2 chaos deamons 9.6 9 (3 players)
3 Imp guard 9.25 (8 players)
4 SW 8.9 (14 players)
5 BA 8.2 (13 players)
6 DE 7.9 (10 players)
7 orks 7.75 (8 players)
8 eldar 7.7 ( 10 players)
9 tyranids 7.4 (9 players)
10 csm 6.5 (8 players)
10 SM 6.5 (27 players)
11 necrons 5.5 (4 players)
12 Tau 5.2 ( 5 players)
13 dark angels 3.2 ( 2 players)
14 deamon hunters2 ( 1 player)
my tournie
3 wins 1 draw 1 loss, best army nomination and best army list and it was fun against some good opponents.
dave l
for a long time i have been attending the grand tournament in nov. I would not put my down as a power gamer how ever I have been raising my painting game over last 3 years so am well practiced with my force. I tend to be the sort of gamer that ends up mid to lower tables having fun but never going through to final ( though finals are now defunked) i tend to roll 1's at wrong moments. Thats why I paint well.
booking ticket = big negative
Nov sold out in 3 hours. tickets sold on MON? my mate has to book time of of, I can't do that. Jan tickets the computer system crashed for 2 days? this may be a one off but not good.
fri registration = plus
my mate registered friday. Though I could not get there in time the queues on sat were non existent
hall lay out = plus
tables aer in rows width wise not length wise this reduces the amount of dodging around fellow gamers.
random tables =mixed blessing
no longer is waiting out side early on and dashing in to scoop table 1 an option ( yes I'm guilty of this). according to ref the tables work like this1st day it's all random 2nd day there are 2 groups upper ( 2 or more wins) and lower, with in groups random draws.
It's no good looking around the hall to work out how well you are doing, it does keep some suspense. it depends if you like suspense.
placings list =mixied blessing
again this is the suspense thing. only names tick no and table are printed so you can't work out how you are doing.
scoring system = seems to do what it was intended
the vote system kept power gaming and argumentative players to a min. though I'm not so hot on BA and SW spam I only spotted 1 army I'd describe as cheesy. I heard from my opponents that 1 person that he played was difficult/ argumentative.
of my games 3 were great (2wins and a draw)
1 was not doe to my opponent just having drawn wrong mission against wrong army.
1 was that in reverse i picked wrong stratergy and my dice came up 1 all at the wrong times
these opponents were also sound players.
It was when I revealed to the player I had nominated as my best opponent that he revealed that HE HAD FORGOT TO VOTE.
Looking at the scores the biggest factor in tournie success is winning. How ever for 3 races SW, DE, and BAthe top general did not win as many games as other players ( of their race) so it can matter.
My self I got one vote, and my army got nominated as best painted. I think most players logic is that there are separate prizes for painting.
most players got 1 vote, an ork player got 4 so I'm interpreting that as being most fun to play.
the compete against own army meant we saw some necrons and tau. SM had a hard time being most numerous, added with their variant lists made up a 3rd of the forces present.
NEWs from the front = plus
this is were tales of lone guards men stabbing to death hive tyrants appear. my mate dark crozius appeared here a fair bit and yes there were awards given. a nice touch.
painting =mixed blessing
Ok for 3 years I have been trying to get nominated and it finally payed off. Now instead of laying out army on a table you have to place them in a display cabinet.
If you have done a large basing board you can forget it ( although it may help in the spotting your army after game 1) it can be tricky to get your army in and out and have time to eat.
how ever the lighting makes them look great.
the winner/ 2nd place a heavily converted historic daemon hunters ( well looked like one but was probably using a marine dex) army with all models with non metalic/ metal paint and a heavily converted plague marine force.
army list prize = Plus
of course I'm going to say plus, I won it. Though the staff really weren't expecting any one to go to the lengths i did. be warned i have another Idea brewing.
5 game in to days =mixed blessing
they probably have had many complaints from police after car accidents on the sunday. for those who have a long drive It is probably a good thing for those who live nearer a bad thing.
40k quiz = Plus
This replaces the GEN knowledge quiz on Sat night ( has no bearing on results of tournie) at first I though too easy but the devious guess the special chariter round was genius
accoustics = negative
listening for announcements was suffered the british rail effect.
And now the killyness of armies average points for winning games not best army votes. Any discrepancies from official data is due to human ( me) error.
1 witch hunters 10 ( 1 player)
2 chaos deamons 9.6 9 (3 players)
3 Imp guard 9.25 (8 players)
4 SW 8.9 (14 players)
5 BA 8.2 (13 players)
6 DE 7.9 (10 players)
7 orks 7.75 (8 players)
8 eldar 7.7 ( 10 players)
9 tyranids 7.4 (9 players)
10 csm 6.5 (8 players)
10 SM 6.5 (27 players)
11 necrons 5.5 (4 players)
12 Tau 5.2 ( 5 players)
13 dark angels 3.2 ( 2 players)
14 deamon hunters2 ( 1 player)
my tournie
3 wins 1 draw 1 loss, best army nomination and best army list and it was fun against some good opponents.
dave l