YourMomsBox
12-31-2010, 10:11 PM
Ordnance Shots from a Demolisher Cannon - Do they grant cover saves?
I understand Ordnance Barrage shots grant cover from where the center of the blast comes from. Template weapons grant no cover saves at all. Ordnance uses the Large Blast Template (see 40K Essentials on Website - 40K Templates).
So since it is an Ordnance shot using the Large Blast template, but not an Ordnance Barrage, is a cover save negated since all models underneath are hit? Or am I missing something, which is completely possible.
Here are the references I could find.
Template pg. 29 "Any models fully or partially under the template are hit...cover saves are ignored when resolving wounds, even by models inside area terrain."
Blast pg. 30 "Once the final position of the blast marker has been determined, take a good look at the blast marker from above - all models whose bases are completely or partially covered by the blast marker are hit."
Barrage pg. 32 "Use the rules for Blast weapons, with the following exceptions...To determine if a unit wounded by a barrage weapon is allowed a cover save, always assume the shot is coming from the centre of the marker, instead of from the firing model. Remember that models in area terrain get their cover save regardless of the direction the shot is coming from."
Template and Blast Weapons pg. 60 "When firing a blast weapon against a vehicle, place the marker with the hole over any part of the vehicle's hull..."
Thanks in advance for any and all suggestions on this matter.
I understand Ordnance Barrage shots grant cover from where the center of the blast comes from. Template weapons grant no cover saves at all. Ordnance uses the Large Blast Template (see 40K Essentials on Website - 40K Templates).
So since it is an Ordnance shot using the Large Blast template, but not an Ordnance Barrage, is a cover save negated since all models underneath are hit? Or am I missing something, which is completely possible.
Here are the references I could find.
Template pg. 29 "Any models fully or partially under the template are hit...cover saves are ignored when resolving wounds, even by models inside area terrain."
Blast pg. 30 "Once the final position of the blast marker has been determined, take a good look at the blast marker from above - all models whose bases are completely or partially covered by the blast marker are hit."
Barrage pg. 32 "Use the rules for Blast weapons, with the following exceptions...To determine if a unit wounded by a barrage weapon is allowed a cover save, always assume the shot is coming from the centre of the marker, instead of from the firing model. Remember that models in area terrain get their cover save regardless of the direction the shot is coming from."
Template and Blast Weapons pg. 60 "When firing a blast weapon against a vehicle, place the marker with the hole over any part of the vehicle's hull..."
Thanks in advance for any and all suggestions on this matter.