New Stormraven?

[Tomalock]

Hey guys, just posted this at warseer. I went to the 40k FAQ this morning and this is what I got by mistake:

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/article.jsp?categoryId=1000018&pIndex=1&aId=3400019&multiPageMode=true&start=2

Could it be true? Or just a badass conversion? They refrence a future WD article in the past tense so I am hopeful!

EDIT:

Here is the picture of it

http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk57/GKTerminators/Miscelanious/Stormraven.jpg

(Thanks to Brother Constantine on Warseer for putting it up on photobucket)

http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk57/GKTerminators/Miscelanious/Stormraven.jpg

And the text that went with it:

Over the next few pages, we will be taking a look at how to paint the Blood Angels Stormraven Gunship, including how to weather the vehicle and paint the interior detail. A great addition and centrepiece model for any Blood Angels army, this will be an invaluable guide to help you get the most from this fantastic kit.

Death from Above
The Stormraven Gunship is an incredibly versatile craft, able to fulfill the roll of orbital dropship, armoured transport and strike aircraft in a way that few, or indeed any, ships could hope to match. The Stormraven ensures that the Blood Angels remain undisputed masters of the skies, as dominant in the air as their troops are on the ground. Smaller and nimbler than the more cumbersome Thunderhawk Gunships, the Stormraven's compact hull and vectored thrusters enable it to operate at maximum efficiency in all but the densest terrain. A Stormraven can often be seen hurtling straight into the heart of the enemy forces, unleashing its considerable arsenal in a terrifying display of firepower, before disgorging a squad, Dreadnought, or even both, into the thick of the fighting.

On the tabletop
With its potent firepower, speed and transport capacity, the uses of a Stormraven on the battlefield are myriad, but its role of choice is as an unparalleled assault vehicle. With a huge variety of weapon options, and no less than four tank-busting Bloodstrike Missiles, both enemy infantry and vehicles alike fear drawing the attention of its guns. A transport capacity of 12 combined with the ability to safely carry a Dreadnought to battle as well certainly proves the Stormraven to be a transport vehicle of the very finest quality. This unique combination of speed, firepower and transport capacity means that a Stormraven can support any tactical preference, so there is always a place for it in any Blood Angels army.

Nick: A Stormraven will be the focal point of your army, so it's well worth giving it a lot of attention when painting it. These techniques can effectively be applied to any other vehicles in your Blood Angels army too, so keep this in mind and you will have a great looking fleet of vehicles in no time. I painted this Stormraven to match the battleforce that I painted for the Blood Angels army workshop in February 2011's White Dwarf; it's part of the 3rd Company, in keeping with the rest of the models. As a personal touch, I've weathered the model to appear heavily battle worn, but if you wish to keep your vehicle in pristine condition, skip page 6 and you'll have an immaculate vehicle, fresh as if at the beginning of a campaign.

Accompanying text.

[Tomalock]

Well GW fixed their mistake quickly. Lots of pics of it HERE (http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=282670&page=2). Yay for GW mistakes that benifit us!

[Defenestratus]

you sir... win. Needs bigger wings for that toad body.

[Drew da Destroya]

Oh, controlled "leaks". Well done on spotting it, man.

I don't really like the design.... waaaaay too much "Flying Land Raider", except it's a Mk1 land raider.

[BuFFo]

Oh, controlled "leaks". Well done on spotting it, man.

I don't really like the design.... waaaaay too much "Flying Land Raider", except it's a Mk1 land raider.

LOL

A giant Lego dropping out of the sky.

[DarkLink]

Looks great except for the poor aspect ratio. It's too short and stubby. If they just made it longer, it would look awesome.

Not that is matters for me since I converted a pair Storm Ravens from Valkyrie kits. And not the stupid flying lunchbox conversions, I mean like this: http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2010/09/40k-blood-angels-stormraven-gunship.html

[fuzzbuket]

note the furiso in the background :D :D:D :D


ugh thats ugly why the need for gw to have parts to represent embarked units i dont give 2 flying sh@ts if a dread fits between the wings a little drop podesque abck door and make it a wee bit longer and VOILA a LESS ugly kit

thank god the furiso looks sexy

[Tomalock]

Interesting cattch! Its really hard to tell, but that is atleast visably not the same furioso as the one they are selling right now. You could be on to something!

[Lane]

Well it has potential as a parts donor for a decent kitbash.

[erwos]

Frankly, some of the Valk kitbashes I've seen look better. It is rather distinctive, though.

BA 2nd wave in January confirmed?

[isotope99]

Kind of hoping it's not real as I don't like it that much.

Definitely doesn't look like just a kit bash but could be a WIP stopgap rather than the real thing, like those apocalypse stompas they had pics of when the book was first released.

Thinking about it more I think I could mae something quite good if I combined it with a drop pod:

Move the wings and the dorsal turret down
Bulk out the tail with the dorsal vent and the drop pod fan
Add a second set of thunderhawk style wings using the drop pod doors
Front stabilisers from the drop pod tips

[Mr.Pickelz]

well...i expected something a bit more realistic, in the Vtol tech department:confused:, those wings don't look like it can support the body, let alone, the with a full load. : / oh well, i guess im goin to have to mod it to work with Grey knights. :D

Edit: after looking at it thoroughly, it seems if the VTOL engines were at full power, the wings would rip themselves off the engine mounts..

.i don't think the Blood angel's thought that one out..

Edit2: i'm thinking of adding a block'ish small jet to where the Icon symbol is between cockpit and side door, have it face 30 degrees away from hull and have it rotatable so it can be adjusted to do maneuvers and vtol take off.

[Bigred]

Is it just me, or does that thing have a "GI-Joe-Cobra" toy vibe to it?

[BlackKnight15624]

Is it just me, or does that thing have a "GI-Joe-Cobra" toy vibe to it?

Might save a few bucks purchasing an actual GI-Joe toy, too.

I'm really hoping this isn't real, but judging by the photography and the models in the picture, it's very indicative of White Dwarf and thus, being the actual model. Quelle horreur!

Looks like I'll be kitbashing/scratch building one...

[fuzzbuket]

ive realised what bugs me about it!

GUNSHIP

now fixed forward MMs, engins that arnt VTOL so it cant dip forward and a lascannon designed for hitting things above it.


DAMN someone fetch me a drop pod rhino and valk pelase!

[Lockark]

It reminds me of 2nd ed modles, but in a bad way. Like the old 2nd Rhino/Land Radier.

[Machinator]

That thing is UGH-LEE, but will be great for parts ;)

[Connjurus]

I've spent a bit of time looking at the picture, and the model, while not perfect, isn't as bad as I think a lot of people believe it to be. It looks exceptionally short due to that camera angle. The biggest problem that I could see someone having with it is the negative space underneath the stabilizer, but I'm pretty damn sure that's so it has the space to fit a dreadnought.

I actually really like this model. It fits the Space Marine aesthetic. Anything sleeker than this wouldn't fit the rest of the vehicle designs.

[Melissia]

It's a bad angle, and hell, it doesn't even look complete (the right tail wing is missing).

[Bigred]

Yeah, we will need to see other angles. I remember thinking The Masque was horrible for months until I saw other angles of the mini.

It does fit the Space Marine design Aesthetic, and is a kind of "baby Thunderhawk" Looking at the Marines next to it, its pretty large too.

I think the jury's still out on this one.

[Bigred]

I present the following toys as people's exhibit a-c:

Cobra Rattler (http://www.yojoe.com/vehicles/08/rattler/)
Cobra Night Raven (http://www.yojoe.com/vehicles/09/nightraven/)
GI Joe Skysweeper (http://www.yojoe.com/vehicles/04/skysweeper2/)

I rest my case :)

[Porty1119]

http://img265.imageshack.us/i/stormraven1.jpg/

I'd rather have that...

[Duke]

The Internet never fails to amuse me. We complain for months about not having a model and then when we get one what do we do? Complain that it isn't cool enough... I know I'll buy three, cause I'm cool like that.

Duke

[DarkLink]

http://img265.imageshack.us/i/stormraven1.jpg/

I'd rather have that...

I'd say this is the best Storm Raven conversion I've seen yet. Definitely much better than the leaked pic.

[Dr. Doctor]

I like the fact that its got that whole GI Joe feel to it. This model looks like it came out of an 80's cartoon like Thundercats, while its not aerodynamic or realistic its still a flying land raider with guns and its cool.

Plus if you had spare treads and sponsons you could convert an old school land raider out of it

[Gir]

I have to say I'm really disappointed. I was expecting something much more cool. After the awesomeness that is the valkyrie, this just looks terrible.

But you never know, might look a lot better with a dreadnough hanging off the back.

[MarneusCalgar]

The Internet never fails to amuse me. We complain for months about not having a model and then when we get one what do we do? Complain that it isn't cool enough... I know I'll buy three, cause I'm cool like that.

Duke

Totally agree with you!!

If it is confirmed that other space marine´s chapters can also have the Stormraven, I will also buy some!!

[Connjurus]

Totally agree with you!!

If it is confirmed that other space marine´s chapters can also have the Stormraven, I will also buy some!!

Buy some anyways for an Apocalypse army. :P

[Connjurus]

Also, sorry for the double post, but this would make an excellent Fighta-Bomba with the right bits.

[eldargal]

I like it and I'm not even that interested in a Stormraven.

[Col.Gravis]

Not a fan of it based on this picture alone, but it should be easier enoguh to tweak the wings forward a bit and reinforceing the engine mounts - the tail is an unknown quantity though still.

[sangrail777]

The more I look at the pic of the storm raven the more its growing on me. Well i'm getting 3 for sure and maybe some more after that. Think they'll go along with my thunderhawk nicely.

[MarneusCalgar]

The more I look at the pic of the storm raven the more its growing on me. Well i'm getting 3 for sure and maybe some more after that. Think they'll go along with my thunderhawk nicely.

You can use them as the Hawk´s scort group

[Faultie]

The Internet never fails to amuse me. We complain for months about not having a model and then when we get one what do we do? Complain that it isn't cool enough... I know I'll buy three, cause I'm cool like that.

Duke
I wouldn't say I don't think it's "cool enough", I'm just not personally drawn to it the way I am to, say, a Valkyrie or Marauder. That said, I've long wanted something to fill in as an Eagle Fighter/Lander for my Arbites, and this looks like a great base for such a conversion by extending out the hull (no need to carry dreads), and replacing the lascannons on the turret with autocannons. Should work out well.

[Schnitzel]

Actually, thats probably a conversion done by one of GW's own... I highly doubt thats the official model. Hell, you can see the various kits its drawn its pieces from.

[Rapture]

Actually, thats probably a conversion done by one of GW's own... I highly doubt thats the official model. Hell, you can see the various kits its drawn its pieces from.

I am skeptical as well. The front hatch looks exactly like the rear hatch from a rhino.

[Brass Scorpion]

Seriously? The last few posts sound like the five stages of grief with several people in the Denial stage. That means the Anger stage is next, which won't be good for forum etiquette. Look over on Dakka's thread about this, there are already lots of people in the second stage.

Of course there are recognizable parts on the thing from the existing Space Marine range, that would be expected. It not only ties the model visually with the existing range, it saves money on sculpting and molding every part from scratch. It's a common practice used on lots of GW kits.

[Defenestratus]

Tell me - which one of the existing kits does that top turret belong to?

My plans for my storm ravens:

Ditch the top turret, replace with a razorback turret.

Slice off that hideous top intake.

Extend the wings another inch and a half. Don't know how I'm going to do it, but I will.

The problem with the model is that its too damn tall. That turret on top is just ... oof.

I'm going to take those turrets and use them for the TWL lascannon predator turrets.

[Emperorsmercy]

I quite like it, but I think I'm in the minority.

Price probably at £35 ?

[Brass Scorpion]

I quite like it, but I think I'm in the minority. Price probably at £35 ?I'm okay with it. It's not my favorite thing they've done this year, but I like it okay. Looking forward to playing around with at least one after it's released.

[Defenestratus]

*facepalm*

I just realized that the whole "front" of the storm raven is a bass-ackwards Rhino.

[Connjurus]

Denial is funny.

[DarkLink]

Someone in this thread (http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=282670&page=14) on warseer says that this is indeed the official model. He also says that it looks better from other angles, though I'm not sure I'm convinced about that part personally.


Interestingly, he also claims that the Storm Raven will be a WD unit release like the Night Spinner, so that GK and BA won't be the only people who can take them.

Note: I don't have the actual quotes to post here because they're buried somewhere in that thread and I'm too lazy to find them again.

[Pendragon38]

So the terrain in the background is a GW only Fortress model that they never released. Its in a few BT pics & in the black reach 5ed mini rule book. that model is the real deal form GW if you look hard enough you can see all there little knick and nats that makes it a GW model:cool:

[Tynskel]

I don't know if anyone has said this or not. BUT It can fly... ya know how I know?

CH-54

http://www.redstone.army.mil/history/aviation/CH-54/index.html

[DarkLink]

Well, yeah, if landspeeders can fly, then this can. At least it has wings:rolleyes:.

Not that I think it looks good.

[Tynskel]

If the CH-54 was the inspiration, then I think they did an awesome job of capturing that image and making it look futuristic.

Most of the vehicles in 40k are inspired by some modern equivalent (at least the imperium). The Thunderbolt is a P51, the Maurader Destroyer is an A10. The Valkyrie is the Hinde.

[Faultie]

Most of the vehicles in 40k are inspired by some modern equivalent (at least the imperium). The Thunderbolt is a P51, the Maurader Destroyer is an A10.
Just a note: the Marauder Destroyer is more likely based on the B-25 Mitchell (G and H, mostly), which looks very similar, and has a similar premise (take a medium bomber and load it with fix-forward cannons!)
The normal Marauder? Could be the same, or a similar version of the B-26 Marauder.

[rle68]

Blech nothing else needs to be said total crapfest

[oiad]

Someone in this thread (http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=282670&page=14) on warseer says that this is indeed the official model. He also says that it looks better from other angles, though I'm not sure I'm convinced about that part personally.


Interestingly, he also claims that the Storm Raven will be a WD unit release like the Night Spinner, so that GK and BA won't be the only people who can take them.

Note: I don't have the actual quotes to post here because they're buried somewhere in that thread and I'm too lazy to find them again.
Found it in under a minute. :p

It was Stickmonkey (http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5116082#post5116082). Here's what he said:

It is the SR.

The photo does not show it off as well as it should.

It's been months since I saw it, but I remember the wings sitting about a quarter to half way over the side doors. This angle make them look like they are much further back on the model. I recall it was front heavy, but there's a whole undercarriage of bits obscured by the marines here.

The angle makes the tail look like it's connected to nothing, the body does go back that far, it's not just on a stick from the intake.

I liked the model a lot when I first saw it. Still do.

As far as the furioso...you've seen that model before elsewhere...can you find it again?

[fuzzbuket]

hmmm where havew i seen the furiso be for i wonder where????????????? someone fetch me all of GWs big obscured
apocalyps shots :P

[JonnyRoxtar]

From the pictures of the GI Joe (action man was better btw) stuff, I think it looks bugger all like any of them.

What I think it does look like is most of the kit bashes that people seem to prefer which seems odd.

It looks ok and will save me from cutting up a valk and a rhino or land raider. Shame I bought a Valk for just such an eventuality now. Guess I`ll have to start a guard army now then.

[addamsfamily36]

As far as the furioso...you've seen that model before elsewhere...can you find it again?

well iv'e never seen it before.

It's definitely plastic and not metal, as the plastics have a bulkier and sharper look. the metals tend to be a little bit shorter (in appearance)

also note take a very very very close look at the melta gun underneath the dreadnoughts right arm (left from our viewpoint)

Its a more modern looking slimline meltagun like the current plastic dread. I have an old metal Furioso and it has a much fatter meltagun.

So unless they changed the metal kit and i just haven't noticed it then its a plastic arm too or a conversion.

[DarkLink]

It's definitely plastic and not metal, as the plastics have a bulkier and sharper look. the metals tend to be a little bit shorter (in appearance)


You can tell from an out of focus picture that doesn't even show the whole dreadnought?

[Tynskel]

he probably has watched too much CSI:

ENHANCE

ENHANCE

ENHANCE

[Aldramelech]

Its horrible, I hate it......

[Tynskel]

take pleasure in destroying it, because I know I will pick up a couple. I think it looks great. Space Marine Stubborn Ruggedness, with giant monster engines to make it happen.

[addamsfamily36]

You can tell from an out of focus picture that doesn't even show the whole dreadnought?

Well iv'e done my best CSI job on it that i could.

Here are just a few observations that make me feel comfortable thinking its a new kit. Doesn't mean it is. I'm open to it being a conversion, but here's what i noticed:

(the circles should be colour coded)

http://www.lounge.belloflostsouls.net/photopost/showfull.php?photo=1676

http://www.lounge.belloflostsouls.net/photopost/showfull.php?photo=1676


Green - There appears to be a section of white on the "new" photo , where on previous furioso's its just a red arm. This could easily be a set of double wings and blood drop. This would be an easy addition for a new sculpt, but as a kit bash, you would have to heat up plastic to get the wings to curve to the shape of the arm, or use the metal etches from forgeworld but they are a bit big for the arm.

White - it is hard to tell from these photo's, but on the metal there is sort of like a cut out from the normal dreadnought shoulder part of the arm. on the "new" picture, it appears to be a solid shoulder much like the newer plastics.

Yellow - the metal kit doesn't sit well on a plastic base and often leaves a gap, the plastic sits a lot better and is extremely flush with the base. The "new" picture shows a foot-to-base that is more like the plastic dreadnought.

These combined with the much more obvious differences such as the sarcophagus lid and the wings either side of the body, suggest either an extensive conversion (one that i have never seen before) or a new kit.


Just my thoughts.

[david5th]

why do my eyes burn so much....

[Porty1119]

It's UGLY. Ughh....I must now go buy a flight of Vultures to make up for the visual aerial pollution!!!!

[Deadlift]

I kind of like it to be honest, but then I seem to like all the GW releases most people don't like. It reminds me of ED-209 with wings.

[Aldramelech]

You have 30 seconds to comply!

[Tynskel]

You are in direct violation of Penal Code 1.13, Section 9

[Gir]

It's growing on me, but I still would like to see it without the top turret and intake vent.

[Tynskel]

You have 15 seconds to comply!

[eldargal]

HonoraryDecoy posted this on Warseer, thought it was so funny I would post it here:
http://www.warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=100785&d=1289785496
http://www.warseer.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5119751&postcount=497

Someone must makea conversion of it.

[Koppenflak]

HonoraryDecoy posted this on Warseer, thought it was so funny I would post it

SNIP

http://www.warseer.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5119751&postcount=497

Someone must makea conversion of it.

Bwahahaha!!! If someone sees a lackey in the back of the Channel 9 newsroom in Sydney just about snorting coca cola all over his computer monitor during the 4:30 news, blame Eldargal.

[Mr.Pickelz]

@eldargal

I can totaly see SW's doing this with Bjorn The fell handed,

[reynor]

http://img265.imageshack.us/i/stormraven1.jpg/

I'd rather have that...

That's my fave conversion

i think the jury is still out until we see a final mock up

GW is reading these forums without a doubt and i wouldn't put it past them to remodel the model, so to speak

[reynor]

Also, sorry for the double post, but this would make an excellent Fighta-Bomba with the right bits.

actually it would!

[fuzzbuket]

That's my fave conversion

i think the jury is still out until we see a final mock up

GW is reading these forums without a doubt and i wouldn't put it past them to remodel the model, so to speak

right everyone spam email gw in 3..2..1.. go:p

[DarkLink]

Via someone on Dakka with photoshop, here's what it should have looked like: http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/154621-storm-raven%20redesign.html

He just photoshopped a few pieces into different places, and it looks ten times better.



GW is reading these forums without a doubt and i wouldn't put it past them to remodel the model, so to speak

I doubt it. I think you underestimate the amount of work that they would have to do in order to change up everything.

[Mr.Pickelz]

Now that SR i want for my grey knights, something that can touch and go and give a good strafing-cover-fire to the boys.

People have been saying it's a Land Raider front and some have been saying it's a Rhino's butt, if it's a LR front then would the FW door's work on it? im curious as it would seem badass to have that on it.

[fuzzbuket]

the sad thing is its decribed as a 'fast agile gunship'

the dakka one looks cool as a hvy duty transport but as a 'agile gunship' not really (although its really cool )

for the GK i may use some spare valk engines (whilst playing about with spare bitz i noticed for a vulture you could make (a) a repreather -esq support of 2 extra engines or fit the valk engines at the back!

but really i think the thunderbolt looks SM ish so if GWs reading this

make it a thunderbolt with larger valkish and a sorta boxy bit at the back?

[L192837465]

Can someone please just get it over with and photoshop a land raider with like, 30 valk engines strapped to the back?

[Tynskel]

haha! No they won't. It takes a lot of money an effort to get a model to the post production phase. They have probably already printed a major amount of units.

The Stormraven looks awesome, and it will sell like hotcakes.

[Connjurus]

haha! No they won't. It takes a lot of money an effort to get a model to the post production phase. They have probably already printed a major amount of units.

The stormraven looks awesome, and it will sell like hotcakes.

qft.

[Gir]

Via someone on Dakka with photoshop, here's what it should have looked like: http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/154621-storm-raven%20redesign.html

He just photoshopped a few pieces into different places, and it looks ten times better.

In my opinion that photoshop makes it look much worse.

I have to say, I hated it a first, but now I'm kinda over the fact that it's not how I imagined it and I'm starting to really like it. Can't wait to see some alternate angles.

[pinchy]

The Stormraven is starting to grow on me. What I really want to see, however, is a different colour scheme- I've never been much of a fan of the Blood Angels colours on vehicles (except when someones freehanded some sort of cool angel wing design).

[Duke]

The Stormraven is starting to grow on me. What I really want to see, however, is a different colour scheme- I've never been much of a fan of the Blood Angels colours on vehicles (except when someones freehanded some sort of cool angel wing design).

Good thing you posted that freehand wing thing, I was about to go nuts! lol j/k

I agree with you though, the design is starting to grow on me... Though that Dakka SR is pretty cool looking too. Im going to reserve final judgement until I see the actual model.

Duke

[BuFFo]

The Stormraven looks butt ugly. It seems so impractical that is actually breaks my suspension of disbelief.

It looks as if it just drops out of orbit, falling straight down to earth like a lawn dart, and just face planting itself in the dirt.

It seems waaay to comical with the giant body and tiny disney faerie wings.

[Loken]

Oh and the Thunderhawk could really fly?

You guys need to lighten up. It fits the Universe and is cool.

I am in for 6 to go with my BA Successors. LOVE them.

Alec


Biggest Apocalypse Battle in History, January 22nd at all 4 US Bunkers (http://apocalypse40k.com/index.php?/forum/32-the-big-game-jan-22-2011/)

[DarkLink]

You guys need to lighten up. It fits the Universe and is cool.


I'll lighten up when it doesn't look as disproportioned as a pug that ran into a few too many doors face first. But as it stands, it looks stupid.

[bloodangel 83]

right now i believe it is a flying rhino like our f-4 phantoms, but as far as 40k it looks like it holds a few squads will be able to make it a home for coming into battle hot. i plan on getting 1 and sratch building one.

[imperialsavant]

;) Who really cares what it looks like IF it can do all they described in the write up!:eek:
cant wait for it to be included with the new Gks Codex. :cool:

[Porty1119]

I'd rather have a few F-4s....

[Deadlift]

The thing is with all these new models that are popping up all over GW and Forgeworld do they fit the fluff ?
I always read that STC (Standard Template Construct) were extremely rare but with new land raiders, storm ravens, new dreadnoughts of some type or another every 2 weeks, not to mention all the new IG stuff. Its obviously all geared towards making money and therefor improving our hobby (which is great) but is any of it fluffy. No not really

[eldargal]

Well, STCs by their nature vary from Forge World to Forge World, so thats not too much of a problem. But I do think the Achilles was a step too far, not for the rules, but the facts its like the twentieth LR variant.:rolleyes:
Of course Forge World stuff is extra variety for the veteran gamer so I don't really have a problem with it.

[Gir]

Well, STCs by their nature vary from Forge World to Forge World, so thats not too much of a problem. But I do think the Achilles was a step too far, not for the rules, but the facts its like the twentieth LR variant.:rolleyes:
Of course Forge World stuff is extra variety for the veteran gamer so I don't really have a problem with it.

There's 6 varients, kind of like hows there's 6 plastic Leman Russ variants. Not really as overkill as it's made out to be, hell, there's more baneblade chassis variants then Land Raiders.

[Brass Scorpion]

The thing is with all these new models that are popping up all over GW and Forgeworld do they fit the fluff ? Who cares, the "reality" in a fantasy universe is flexible and I'd rather see cool new ideas and models than a static adherence to a fictional "reality" created in 1987. As long as the new stuff fits in with the general atmosphere of the older stuff, I don't mind a bit of revisionism on the 40K lore.

[Tynskel]

The warp bends reality!

[eldargal]

Yes, two Land Raider variants for each Eldar tank type.:p

Really though, I'm teasing more than anything else. I think it is a bit sad that the rare and holy relic of the Land Raider is now five a penny in your choice of flavours, but it doesn't do any harm and some of the models look really nifty.

[Brass Scorpion]

the Land Raider is now five a penny in your choice of flavours Don't we all wish! Have you seen the price of the Land Raider kits since June 1? ;) Ouch! I'm glad I got so many long ago, through bundle deals, etc. $62 is not cheap. I'm just glad my new Eldar tanks are only $49.50, though I luckily didn't have to pay for any of the three of those I got.

[Aldramelech]

This popped up on my clubs site, don't ask me where its from, I have no idea......

http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/xx135/andyblackmore/img0072dh.jpg

[GrenAcid]

Looks like half of brick for me, very imperial :rolleyes::D

[Firebird]

I LIKE it!!

[Tynskel]

That's the same one, just missing the cockpit.

[DarkLink]

It looks a little better from this angle, though the top air scoop and turret shouldn't be there.

[Brass Scorpion]

The Stormraven looks a lot better from that angle.


I think it is a bit sad that the rare and holy relic of the Land Raider is now five a penny in your choice of flavours, but it doesn't do any harm and some of the models look really nifty. Don't we all wish they were five-a-penny really, $62 for one Land Raider kit is quite expensive. ;)

[Melissia]

The Stormraven looks a lot better from that angle.As predicted by me the moment I read these threads flaming the new model.

[Captain Max]

I'm even more excited to get one now. :) Any guesses as to price of the model?

[Defenestratus]

Probably the same price as a valk.

I agree with darklink. Removal of the top bitz will make this thing just downright seksy.

[DarkLink]

I think the other picture had it on landing gear, and the Marines at its base hiding it made it look taller than it was. It also looked more narrow from that angle. That threw off the proportions and made it look pretty funny, especially with the top turret.

[MarneusCalgar]

And...

Shall the rest of marine chapters use it finally??

Cause from this new view is amazing!!

[addamsfamily36]

And...

Shall the rest of marine chapters use it finally??

Cause from this new view is amazing!!

Not that i want to stop other players from being able to use this kit, but i do hope they exclude it from being universally available to all space marine chapters.

I know this sounds harsh lol but please hear me out.

I love blood angels. Theres no doubt that i"m biased towards them. At my local store there have been a few people complaining about the blood angels, and that they feel they are not 'Unique' enough, to deserve their own codex. They feel a dark angels, black templars, blood angels, chapter boox could have been made, or even a larger general space marine book with all 3 in. When they said this i was like
....
:eek:
come again?

so rightfully i defended the blood angels saying that they were quite individual, and the new codex has given them a few nice extras to further their fluff etc.

I feel it would then dilute the codex if all the other chapters gained access to some of their unique stuff. This happened last time, when the blood angels only pyschic power became a generic space marine codex power. FNP became even more universal etc etc. Then the came out with the white dwarf codex, and i'll admit. I was extremely scared that my favourite 40k army was close to being sidelined or pushed to the back of the generic space marine codex. And i would hate to see that happen again (it obviously won;t, but you kinda get what i mean)

But as i said, im obviously biased. :D

[Brass Scorpion]

Any guesses as to price of the model? Speculating about this today with friends, one of them a GW store operator, we're guessing about the same as a Valkyrie, hopefully not more than $62 US for a Stormraven.

[DarkLink]

There is supposed to be a flyer expansion in WD next year, so I think it is quite likely that by next summer all Marines will indeed have the Storm Raven available.

[MarneusCalgar]

There is supposed to be a flyer expansion in WD next year, so I think it is quite likely that by next summer all Marines will indeed have the Storm Raven available.

Thank you for that info!!!

[shrike]

The new angle makes it look better, but I am still calling it the stormpelican.
£35 I reckon.
Grey knights will have one. (Confirmed now)
Vanilla marines will probably have one.
I've been pestering the guy for more pics of the side and rear. I don't beleive that he took those pics coz' he won't post more.
To make mine more raven than pelican, I'm going to swap the lascannon turret for a razorback lascannon turret, continue the hull up to the rear, in a box shape, leave the back open, so a dread can stand inside it, none of this ridiculous "hanging non" business.
just my two pence.;)

[Gir]

To make mine more raven than pelican, I'm going to swap the lascannon turret for a razorback lascannon turret, continue the hull up to the rear, in a box shape, leave the back open, so a dread can stand inside it, none of this ridiculous "hanging non" business.
just my two pence.;)

Here's what I don't get about people going on about how they'll modify it: How do you know what to modify when you haven't actually seen the whole thing? Everyone goes on about changing the back, but there hasn't even been close to a picture of the back at all.

Not taking a shot at you or anything, but so many people seem to be jumping the gun on this.

[GrenAcid]

There is supposed to be a flyer expansion in WD next year, so I think it is quite likely that by next summer all Marines will indeed have the Storm Raven available.

So our DE fighter and bomber gonna get new rules or somthing like that?

[shrike]

yeah, I tend to jump the gun a little. Like I've already made rules for a tank that's gonna be made in about a year.

[Lockark]

So our DE fighter and bomber gonna get new rules or somthing like that?


I assumed the expantion will be a re-print of the flier and AA-mount rules. That why the our DE flyers/Valks/Storm Ravens/ect can be real flyers and not skirmishers, and all armies will have options to accualy deal with these fliers.

But that's even if these rumors turn out true. (I'm keeping skeptical as to avoid disappointment.)