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Aenir
10-15-2010, 02:45 PM
I saw that Daemonhunters had one (that also seems to Include WH, be it correct or not)

So here is a thread for the Emperor's First and Finest!

Seeing as to how the Space Puppies got Wolves, perhaps actual Ingame rules for the Watchers in the Dark?

Larger than 5 man Terminator Squads (Please, if nothing else, just this one!)

Belial becomes more than a basic Captain who unlocks FOC.

Anything else you guys would like to see?

Kevlarshark
10-15-2010, 02:57 PM
A Dark Angel unique elite squad...not just termies or bikers called something different!

Drew da Destroya
10-15-2010, 03:03 PM
Watchers would be pretty cool, but I don't think they ever really had a battlefield role... other than holding helmets, of course.

Maybe as a piece of Wargear... "Watcher in the Dark" - Model is under the protection of the Watchers in the Dark. They may reroll one failed armor save per game. - 5 pts. Then GW could make a cool little model set of 2-3 variations, like Bomb Squigs or Ammo Runts.

I'd like to see actual shooty marines... maybe some kind of terminator-based Plasma cannon? It'd be fun for Jetbikes to make it back into the game for them, but that'd definitely take some retconning. Possibly as part of a retinue for the captain of the Ravenwing?

Limey El'Jonson
10-15-2010, 04:13 PM
I'd love to see some wargear improvements. Absolutely need to bring the DA codex into line, or possibly a little bit ahead (per the usual codex creep) of the SM/SW/BA codices.

I'd like to see Belial models. Even though I have my own kitbashed ones, some new sculpts would be great to see - with all three wargear variations (shooty slashy and bonky)

The DW stats need to come into line with the vanilla.

Be nice to get the Stormraven, and the newer dreadnoughts. Not sure about any kind of Librarian dreadnought although a Chaplain dreadnought would be nice n fluffy.

As Sternguard and Vanguard are the 1st company of other chapters, there would have to be workarounds in the fluff to put them elsewhere, with DW being the DA 1st company.

Make the Scouts troops and give them a Telion type character. The variety of characters in the SW codex, along with the variety of wargear options available to them is great - they're all like lots of little ICs. Very cool for personalisation. I think there's room for that in the DA codex.

Land RaiderAchilles? Or perhaps a FW conversion kit to build the Ares, please?

Aenir
10-15-2010, 09:18 PM
meh, Drop Stern and Van IMO, Would love the LR Ares to make it to regular Codex status. Perhaps a special type of Terminators?

As to the Deathwing themselves, I would love to see something unique for them, Fearless isnt cutting it...

Perhaps +1 T or +1 Inv save?

Maybe even some sort of special weapon, along the lines of A Plasma gun, but w/o overheat? (as old info has the DA partial to Plas.)

Maybe a special weapon for int. chaplains, poisoned 3+ Blades of Reason? :D

musical-fool
10-15-2010, 11:05 PM
Apart from bringing the DA codex in line with the SM codex, SS at 3+, etc. I don't think we need to see anything changed to the DW stats per say. However maybe DW assault could be tweaked to allow one unit only to deep strike on turn one but that unit could assault but not shoot...or something like that.
If not then possibly along with a points jump for Belial so that A) he can have a better base invul. B) allowing to take LR at -X points or so;ething along those lines.

But in all honesty apart from bringing the wargear inline with the other codices and a better invul for Belial I don't honestly think a lot more needs to be done for the DW. Anything extra would be a bonus but also confirm the feeling that GW are making all the new codices stonger and stonger as they come out, which isn't necessarily a good thing.

I would like to see a new Azrael fig though...:p

LidlessPraetor
10-15-2010, 11:35 PM
I"d like to see the Deathwing assault combined with the drop pod assault that space marines get, other than the obvious wargear updates. Also, either change the fearless mechanics, or change the army back to stubborn.

brains
10-16-2010, 11:24 AM
maybe jump pack veterans with plasma guns. Maybe with an extra point of strength for the gun, but gets hot on a miss

Hear me out. The two things you think of when you think Dark Angels is a hatred of the fallen, and the biggest balls in the imperium. Plasma guns would reflect that, as well as adding in some of that "Salem witch trials" fire. They would be perfectly suited for taking down high priority marines, A.K.A the fallen.

Sister Rosette Soulknyt
10-16-2010, 09:18 PM
Besides th eobvious lack of wargear upgrades they need, eg: stormshields.The only other thing the DA's really need is to convert there veterans in either Sternguard or Vanguard.
BA's got them, and seems stupid that DA's dont, so i would allow them to have these too.

Now, i used to play DA's a long time ago, and i collected them for over 10years, they really didnt get the best from GW with the new release of 5th ed.....got shafted rightfully.
Other than that, bring back Stubborn, wargear upgrades, veterans in line with Stern/Vanguard and maybe bring out unique Dreadnoughts as they are the oldest Chapter in all time, maybe a Mortis plasma dreadnought would be cool.

Maybe as the Salamanders are unique with Melta/Flamers give the DA's the same rules with Plasma. Make them MC for free and i wouldnt go so much as twin-linked.

More special characters, or just upgrade them inline with current over powered characters. Heck can you imagine Azriel fighting say Mephiston now, well i think i know which one's going to the winner there.

Aenir
10-18-2010, 01:20 AM
I was thinking (looking at the old DA mini dex I got in an auction) Perhaps some fallen specific rules? (What was hunt the fallen, Im looking and cant find it.)

I was thinking on the Character List:

Azrael
Belial
New Ravenwing Master (TBH not a Fan of Sammael and his Jetbike or him... hence why I field him in the speeder!)
Bring Back Asmodai
Ezekiel needs a revamp, 170 points for the Flamer, Psychic Invuln Test and a Heavy 1 18" LD Test power? Even the 2+ armor and Fearless bubble is worth it...

Perhaps Rolling Int. Chaplain and Regular Chaplain into one, perhaps an upgrade instead of a character alltogether.

I know Rites of battle would leave, but dang... I like having army wide LD10 :)