karandras
09-11-2010, 01:48 PM
I am an experienced 40k player with multiple armies, but with the release of 8th edition am looking to branch into Fantasy. I paint well, but slowly, and often look to make smallish armies that are effective and shun horde lists. I have compiled a potential 2500 point High Elf list centered around the miniatures supplied in the IoB set, which I now have two of. I am a tournament player and am hoping some experienced players out there can give me a little bit of feedback on this list. Thanks!
Lords:
Teclis + 475 (Lore of Shadow or maybe occassionally Beasts)
Heroes:
Caradryan + 175 (General)
Mage (Lvl 2, w/Guardian Phoenix, Jewel of Dusk + 175 (High Magic)
Core:
30 Lothern Seaguard w/Full Cmnd, Shields, Standard of Discipline + 430
25 Lothern Seaguard w/Full Cmnd, Shields + 350
Special:
15 Swordmasters w/Full Cmnd, Banner of Arcane Protection, Armour of Caledor + 305
14 Pheonix Guard w/Full Cmnd, Gleaming Pennant, Potion of Strength + 265 (Led byCaradryan)
5 Dragon Princes w/Full Cmnd, Wailing Banner, Silverskein + 275
Rare:
Great Eagle + 50
Obviously, the army relies heavily on magic to make an impact. The 55 Longbows from the Seaguard are an added nuisance that can hopefully wittle down an enemy unit by concentrating fire and they can hold their own in combat due to the sheer number of attacks. The Pheonix Guard and Sword Masters are the hard hitting hand to hand units and the Dragon Princes are ideally going to hold back on a flank and hope to hit a unit already engaged by one of the other units in the flank, or go by themselves sweeping away oppoenent's small units if the opportunity presents itself. The Great Eagle, is of course to try and hunt war machines, shield the Dragon Princes, or assist in combat if needed.
I already own about half of the Seaguard, Teclis, the Mage, the Sword Masters, the Dragon Princes, and the Great Eagle, so it's an army I can finish on the cheap. In order to expand it to 3000 point level, all I was going to do is add 2 Lion Chariots, 2 Bolt Throwers, and another Great Eagle (only 5 models to paint).
My questions to you experienced elven players and tournament players are:
Is it at all effective???
Or, should I scrap it and start over???
Is an ASB a must, or will it survive without it???
I considered dropping Teclis and using the IoB Griffon Prince as Eltharion , adding in another level 2 Mage, and making a different list altogether. I am also a bit unsure of the Phoenix Guard and Caradryn as that is a huge chunk of points and I don't own any of the models, but a Fear Causing unit with a 4+ Ward Save, Ld 9 and Magic Resistance 3 seemed like a pretty hard unit. Are White Lions better???
Thanks for taking the time!
Lords:
Teclis + 475 (Lore of Shadow or maybe occassionally Beasts)
Heroes:
Caradryan + 175 (General)
Mage (Lvl 2, w/Guardian Phoenix, Jewel of Dusk + 175 (High Magic)
Core:
30 Lothern Seaguard w/Full Cmnd, Shields, Standard of Discipline + 430
25 Lothern Seaguard w/Full Cmnd, Shields + 350
Special:
15 Swordmasters w/Full Cmnd, Banner of Arcane Protection, Armour of Caledor + 305
14 Pheonix Guard w/Full Cmnd, Gleaming Pennant, Potion of Strength + 265 (Led byCaradryan)
5 Dragon Princes w/Full Cmnd, Wailing Banner, Silverskein + 275
Rare:
Great Eagle + 50
Obviously, the army relies heavily on magic to make an impact. The 55 Longbows from the Seaguard are an added nuisance that can hopefully wittle down an enemy unit by concentrating fire and they can hold their own in combat due to the sheer number of attacks. The Pheonix Guard and Sword Masters are the hard hitting hand to hand units and the Dragon Princes are ideally going to hold back on a flank and hope to hit a unit already engaged by one of the other units in the flank, or go by themselves sweeping away oppoenent's small units if the opportunity presents itself. The Great Eagle, is of course to try and hunt war machines, shield the Dragon Princes, or assist in combat if needed.
I already own about half of the Seaguard, Teclis, the Mage, the Sword Masters, the Dragon Princes, and the Great Eagle, so it's an army I can finish on the cheap. In order to expand it to 3000 point level, all I was going to do is add 2 Lion Chariots, 2 Bolt Throwers, and another Great Eagle (only 5 models to paint).
My questions to you experienced elven players and tournament players are:
Is it at all effective???
Or, should I scrap it and start over???
Is an ASB a must, or will it survive without it???
I considered dropping Teclis and using the IoB Griffon Prince as Eltharion , adding in another level 2 Mage, and making a different list altogether. I am also a bit unsure of the Phoenix Guard and Caradryn as that is a huge chunk of points and I don't own any of the models, but a Fear Causing unit with a 4+ Ward Save, Ld 9 and Magic Resistance 3 seemed like a pretty hard unit. Are White Lions better???
Thanks for taking the time!